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#31981 of 32000 Re: My Buick is famous! [andre1969] by fintail

Feb 14, 2013 (1:54 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Feb 14, 2013 12:32 pm)
Funny, that's exactly how I picture the $500 NYer looking every day
 
Somehow I expect them to use Prius around here. Maybe a Volt.

#31982 of 32000 Re: My Buick is famous! [tlong] by fintail

Feb 14, 2013 (1:54 pm)

Replying to: tlong (Feb 14, 2013 1:38 pm)
You work for google?

#31983 of 32000 Re: My Buick is famous! [fintail] by tlong

Feb 14, 2013 (1:56 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Feb 14, 2013 1:54 pm)
Lol!
 
No.

#31984 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [ateixeira] by uplanderguy

Feb 14, 2013 (2:13 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 14, 2013 1:50 pm)
I'm an auditor. I hear B.S. constantly, so I am skeptical.
 
I find it hard to believe that styling would be considered a reliability issue at three years. Does styling change from "initial" to three years of age?
 
"Initial" testing would be more likely to include owner satisfaction, etc., it seems. But maybe not.
 
"Durability" seems to me to be a much more specific word than "quality" (as in "initial quality"). Don't they also do an "APEAL" (like 'appeal') rating on cars fairly early on in their life?

#31985 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [uplanderguy] by busiris

Feb 14, 2013 (2:39 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Feb 14, 2013 2:13 pm)
There lies the REAL problem with these surveys...
 
No clear definition of exactly what the survey is asking, and as the end result, what is being reported.
 
Of course, it may be that way by design, so that the reader can gain whatever result and inference he/she is looking to find.
 
As an auditor, I suspect you would agree that a clear definition of the "audit", as a survey might be called, is very important in reporting the results.
 
It's why I take ALL surveys with a grain of salt. Informative, but not necessarily unbiased or factual (either by incompetence or design).
 
That's my opinion, anyway.
 
Oh, btw, the APEAL study results are at the bottom of the page ...
 
http://autos.jdpower.com/research/MINI/Cooper/2012/Convertible/ratings.htm

#31986 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [busiris] by uplanderguy

Feb 14, 2013 (2:41 pm)

Replying to: busiris (Feb 14, 2013 2:39 pm)
Again, I think there's a distinct difference between the words "durability" and "quality". "Quality" is a lot more nebulous I think. That's why I doubt that cupholders are considered in 'durability' (although I guess that would be 'interior hardware' in CR). Who knows.

#31987 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [uplanderguy] by ateixeira

Feb 14, 2013 (2:41 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Feb 14, 2013 2:13 pm)
I'm an auditor. I hear B.S. constantly, so I am skeptical
 
My wife is a PR person. She's a professional B.S. artist.
 
I'm skeptical, too.

#31988 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [busiris] by ateixeira

Feb 14, 2013 (2:44 pm)

Replying to: busiris (Feb 14, 2013 2:39 pm)
APEAL is where things get real hysterical. A lot of oddball cars tend to win those awards.
 
Aztek was a notable winner. Subaru Baja as well. Avalanche won, too.
 
I guess if you like an oddball car, and the public doesn't and gives you grief about it, then you must really like it in order to still buy that car.

#31989 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [ateixeira] by uplanderguy

Feb 14, 2013 (2:46 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 14, 2013 2:41 pm)
As an auditor, I have people trying to tell me things I know that inside they can't possibly believe themselves! LOL
 
Over the decades, I find HR people to be some professional BS'ers! LOL

#31990 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [uplanderguy] by ateixeira

Feb 14, 2013 (2:48 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Feb 14, 2013 2:46 pm)
I swear I gave my church this HUGE cash donation...and I have several kids running around, just can't find 'em to prove paternity.

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