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#31971 of 32000 Re: My Buick is famous! [andre1969]
by michaell
Feb 14, 2013 (11:50 am)
When I use Google Earth to zoom in on my folks' house in California, it's got Dad's orange Chevy pickup in the driveway.
#31972 of 32000 Re: My Buick is famous! [uplanderguy]
by andre1969
Feb 14, 2013 (12:00 pm)
I see what you meant, earlier, about the common color. It seems like most are that color!
Yeah, it's common enough that last week, as I was bringing it back from the repair shop, a couple hundred feet before I reached my house, a non-Ultra edition in the same color passed me going the other way. I gave a thumbs up to the driver, but he seemed oblivious.
I've seen an occasional dark green Park Ave, sort of what I'd call Emerald Green? But I think you're right, that it wasn't too common. Shame, because I think it's a nice color. The other day I saw one in a nice silvery blue, too.
#31973 of 32000 Re: My Buick is famous! [andre1969]
by uplanderguy
Feb 14, 2013 (12:03 pm)
The green I'm thinking of was dark, but not real dark. My guess is it was a '99, because I remember the same color available on the '99 Chevy Venture Van. I wanted our new van that color, but my wife wanted navy blue. I won't tell you what my wife called that green color. I'd almost (but not quite) call it a 'bright' green.
#31974 of 32000 Re: My Buick is famous! [andre1969]
by fintail
Feb 14, 2013 (12:24 pm)
Oh, that makes sense - having never noticed a google car on the road, that might explain why I am not in any street view pics. My cars also usually sit in a garage when not in use, limiting my chances.
I have noticed my sister's old Focus is shown at her house, my brother's unique new wave graphics Toyota pickup in front of my mother's house, and on a GM note, my uncle's LeSabre at my grandmother's.
#31976 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [robr2]
by tlong
Feb 14, 2013 (1:36 pm)
Something may work as designed but if it's a poor design, is it still a quality item??
So if I am understanding correctly are we saying that:
The JDP IQS is about problems, which can include both things gone wrong as well as poor design issues; and
...the JDP 3 year survey is just about reliability (but excludes those "poor design issues" that were counted in the IQS, unless that leads to actual breakage of parts or system functions?
#31977 of 32000 Re: My Buick is famous! [fintail]
by tlong
Feb 14, 2013 (1:38 pm)
That's awesome. How did you find that?
I agree, it's awesome.
I suspect a truck from a company whose treacherous traitorous criminal executives who should be hanged took his picture!
#31978 of 32000 Re: My Buick is famous! [tlong]
by andre1969
Feb 14, 2013 (1:44 pm)
I suspect a truck from a company whose treacherous traitorous criminal executives who should be hanged took his picture!
I forget what it was, but for some reason I'm getting the mental image of a Nissan Quest.
#31979 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [uplanderguy]
by ateixeira
Feb 14, 2013 (1:44 pm)
I find that hard to believe
Skepticism is fair, I've been guilty of that, too.
But look here:
http://autos.jdpower.com/research/MINI/Cooper/2012/Convertible/ratings.htm
Under IQS, Body & Interior Quality - Design ? ...
Then hover your mouse over the question mark....
Read the part where it says "this score is based on problems with the front-/rear-end styling, the appearance of the interior and exterior, and the sound of the doors when closing".
Hard to believe, sure, but there it is in black and white.
Styling can be considered a "problem".
But, wait, Cup Holders?!
Yes, in reviews I read "cup holders too small to fit most drinks".
Now do you believe me?
#31980 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [ateixeira]
by ateixeira
Feb 14, 2013 (1:50 pm)
So the follow-up question is, are these things included in the Durability Study?
To be honest I'm not sure, but here:
http://autos.jdpower.com/content/study-auto/p9FeKpq/2013-u-s-vehicle-dependabili- ty-study-results.htm
That page says "The overall dependability score for each model is derived based on the number of problems experienced per 100 vehicles".
Remember, though. These folks just said they reported on problems with styling and appearance.
So I'm not sure if they're included or not, but if it's a problem in the IQS, why would they define "problem" differently for the Durability Study?
This is the same company, after all.