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#31962 of 32000 Re: GM's Q4 operating profit rises 14% to $1.25B [ateixeira]
by xrunner2
Feb 14, 2013 (10:12 am)
Article stated: "For the full year, GM's net income was $4.86 billion, vs. a record $7.59 billion in 2011. Operating income in 2012, before any one-time items, was $7.86 billion, down from $8.30 billion in 2011."
So, income in 2012 down from 2011. Also, did not see mention that GM sill owes we taxpayers $21 Billion.
#31963 of 32000 Re: My Buick is famous! [andre1969]
by uplanderguy
Feb 14, 2013 (10:14 am)
Geez, that Buick looks good in that pic!
I see what you meant, earlier, about the common color. It seems like most are that color!
Every once in a while I'd see one that was the color of spring grass. I liked that but I don't think it was very popular.
#31964 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [uplanderguy]
by robr2
Feb 14, 2013 (10:29 am)
I know that's been discussed before, but I find that hard to believe. I think 90% of Americans would define 'problem' as 'something that needs repaired', not a design dislike.
Per Car and Driver:
Raffi Festekjian, J. D. Power’s director of automotive product research, explains that the IQS was designed to capture “things gone wrong” with a vehicle. Each one is called a “problem,” and it can be “either a fault in the assembly of the vehicle or a design issue.” A fault might be a poorly assembled door panel or a loose electrical connection, while a design issue is something that a customer doesn’t like—a multifunction cruise-control stalk, for example—even though the item is performing exactly as intended.
I'm supposed to be working...
As are most of us - get your priorities straight!!
#31965 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [robr2]
by uplanderguy
Feb 14, 2013 (10:35 am)
If that's the case, I thus put no more weight in their survey than in CR's, where you have to pay for their subscription to be counted.
All kidding aside, I think that's very disappointing about Powers.
EDIT: "IQS" equals "Initial Quality Survey" doesn't it, not "things gone wrong in 36 months"?
#31966 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [uplanderguy]
by robr2
Feb 14, 2013 (10:46 am)
EDIT: "IQS" equals "Initial Quality Survey" doesn't it, not "things gone wrong in 36 months"?
Who is talking about 36 months? The article refers to 90 day IQS.
If you read the article, it notes that JD Powers takes the definition of quality literally:
But Webster’s concise definition of quality is “the degree of excellence which a thing possesses.”
Something may work as designed but if it's a poor design, is it still a quality item??
#31967 of 32000 Re: My Buick is famous! [andre1969]
by fintail
Feb 14, 2013 (10:52 am)
That's awesome. How did you find that?
I've stalked out areas where I usually am, looking for my cars - no luck.
#31968 of 32000 Re: My Buick is famous! [fintail]
by lemko
Feb 14, 2013 (10:55 am)
The Google Earth pic of my place still shows my 1988 Park Avenue parked on the street.
#31969 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [robr2]
by uplanderguy
Feb 14, 2013 (10:57 am)
The survey posted the other day was problems in three years ownership, on 2010 model cars.
#31970 of 32000 Re: My Buick is famous! [fintail]
by andre1969
Feb 14, 2013 (11:35 am)
That's awesome. How did you find that?
I remembered driving out that way back in May of last year with a friend, going to a party, and there was a Googlemaps car off on the shoulder of the exit lane, going really slow. I've actually tried looking at that spot every once in awhile, but for the longest time it looked like there was a glitch, like the camera was over-exposed. or something. But then, yesterday I was bored, looked again, noticed that it appeared fixed, and found my car.
I remember years ago, when bingmaps (or whatever it was called back in the day) first started doing birds-eye views, I looked up my Granddad's house, and my '79 5th Ave was parked out in front. That had to have been a one in a million shot...that they'd happen to fly over at a time that I happened to be there, and driving that car. Either that, or the gov't is watching me!