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#31951 of 32000 Re: And, the rest of the story [uplanderguy]
by ateixeira
Feb 13, 2013 (3:51 pm)
I have been very lucky recently. My wife has had ups and downs but she's good now so it's a keeper.
#31952 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [andres3]
by ateixeira
Feb 13, 2013 (3:53 pm)
I do think expectations play a role.
You may tolerate a squeak in a Chevy that would not in a Cadillac.
#31953 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [uplanderguy]
by andres3
Feb 13, 2013 (4:00 pm)
what's surprising to me (really) are the names way down at the bottom...from what I hear here all the time .
Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge, Land Rover, what's surprising about that? They've been at the bottom of every list for decades now!
#31954 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [andres3]
by busiris
Feb 13, 2013 (4:35 pm)
As a 3-series owner, I would say you have it pegged perfectly.
The range of a 3-series owner runs from an upscale (at least, in her opinion) mother wanting the safest ride for her kids (remember the Volvo moms in the 1990's?) to some guy who fancies himself a "street racer", and everything in between.
#31955 of 32000 GM's Q4 operating profit rises 14% to $1.25B
by ateixeira
Feb 14, 2013 (7:59 am)
the company's third straight annual profit since its 2009 bankruptcy
Read more: http://www.autonews.com/article/20130214/OEM/130219913#ixzz2Ksyn226o
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Just think, they could have let a chinese company like Chery acquire whatever was left and then all those profits would be going to China.
#31956 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [andres3]
by uplanderguy
Feb 14, 2013 (8:32 am)
I guarantee you that with the demographics of buyers a BMW 3-Series includes, you'd get 2 complaints for the same thing, only different:
One lease buyer with an automatic transmission will probably say "The exhaust is too loud and buzzy."
Another purchase buyer with a manual might say "the exhaust is too muffled and toned down."
Are these things considered a 'problem'? I don't think so.
I think 'problem' means 'something you take to the dealer to repair'.
#31957 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [uplanderguy]
by ateixeira
Feb 14, 2013 (9:01 am)
Oddly, to JDP and associates a poorly designed cup holder, that doesn't work well, is considered a design flaw, and would count against the car.
It's not broken, just badly designed and fails at its function.
Weird.
The Hummer H2 got dinged for MPG that didn't meet expectations. Nothing was broken, but they considered it an issue because owners complained about it.
#31958 of 32000 Re: GM's Q4 operating profit rises 14% to $1.25B [ateixeira]
by tlong
Feb 14, 2013 (9:05 am)
the company's third straight annual profit since its 2009 bankruptcy
IMHO, the measure of the company's success won't be when the auto sales are doing well, it will be whether they can continue to do decently during the next downturn.
#31959 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [ateixeira]
by uplanderguy
Feb 14, 2013 (9:08 am)
I know that's been discussed before, but I find that hard to believe. I think 90% of Americans would define 'problem' as 'something that needs repaired', not a design dislike. I'm supposed to be working so am not going to search on Powers' site, but again...seems hard to believe.
I mean, this isn't their 'likeability' survey, or even 'owner satisfaction', it's a 'problem' survey.
#31960 of 32000 Re: GM improving on Durability study [uplanderguy]
by dieselone
Feb 14, 2013 (9:16 am)
I would agree, but fuel economy can be a problem. If your vehicle is rated to get 12, 30, 50, or whatever, and it's getting 6, 15, 25, and so on. You'd likely be taking it to the dealer to see what's going on.