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Re: 2008 Sales (Final Figures) [tlong] by circlew
Jan 08, 2009 (7:06 pm)
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Replying to: tlong (Jan 08, 2009 5:14 pm)

Add Yukon Denali. Falls apart even before 36K miles.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: [plekto] by pmusce
Jan 08, 2009 (7:32 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Jan 07, 2009 11:52 pm)

I *did* call it. GM doesn't want anyone to know where the bailout money is really going because it's all gong overseas to basically get the hell out of the U.S. when it comes to manufacturing. They say stuff in the press and lie through their teeth, but if the guys in China say they're going to be building them there, I know which newspapers to believe.
  
Moral - only buy cars with a 1 as the first number in the VIN. Anything else is literally shipping dollars out of our economy and overseas.

 
The Cruze will built in Lordstown, Ohio. It is also a world car and will be built in other plants around the world. Nothing wrong with that. GM just got the loan and you think they managed to build a plant in China? Things don't move that quickly. The Cruze will be in production in the next couple of months and for sale in many parts of the world. The delay for US production is because they are building an engine plant (in Michigan) that will supply the Cruze engines for the US version (1.4L DI Turbo).
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Re: 2008 Sales (Final Figures) [dave8697] by bpizzuti
Jan 09, 2009 (3:38 am)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jan 08, 2009 4:35 pm)

You claim there are about 40 crappy GM models. can you give specifics?
 
Cobalt
G5
Aura
Equinox
Torrent
G6
Impala
Colorado
HHR
Sierra
Aveo
G3
Vibe (I don't like the Matrix either)
Trailblazer (did that finally go away yet?)
 
That's off the top of my head, with no research.
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Re: GM says it may not need more loans [tlong] by 62vetteefp
Jan 09, 2009 (4:40 am)
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Replying to: tlong (Jan 08, 2009 2:08 pm)

Per the GM restructuring plan
 
U.S. Industry Outlook:
- Downside
2009 10.5 million
2010 11.5
2011 12.0
2012 12.8
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Re: [bumpy] by 62vetteefp
Jan 09, 2009 (4:47 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jan 08, 2009 4:09 pm)

Seems to me the lion's share of design work on the Camaro was done in Australia. I suppose the US-based powertrain crew would count for a few hundred jobs.
 
Austrailia is in charge of the architecture. Truthfully I am not sure where the cut off is but I do know my brother here in the US is the design engineer of multiple exterior parts. He also has the same parts on other vehicles. The purchasing of parts is also done by people at the tech center. Validation is also at our Milford proving grounds.
 
Here is GM's statement:
 
Indeed, the 2010 Camaro exemplifies GM's global development process. The design concept originated in the United States; engineering was directed by GM's global rear-wheel-drive team in Australia; validation was conducted on roads around the world and assembly will take place at GM's award-winning Oshawa facility in Canada.
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Better Stay in Line! by circlew
Jan 09, 2009 (4:51 am)
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Reports: GM, Chrysler bailout deals bar strikes
Friday January 9, 7:13 am ET
Reports: General Motors, Chrysler federal bailout loans in default if union strikes

 
DETROIT (AP) -- Newspaper reports say General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC would be in default of their multi-billion dollar federal bailouts if their workers go on strike and could be forced into bankruptcy.
 
The Detroit Free Press and The Detroit News report Friday that the default is part of the deal GM signed with the Bush administration last month to get $13.4 billion in loans. The Detroit News reports Chrysler's loan deal has a similar provision.
 
The United Auto Workers isn't a party to the deal and hasn't threatened a strike.
 
The Free Press says if GM defaults on its loans, the U.S. Treasury Department could demand remand repayment and force GM into bankruptcy.
 
The UAW and the automakers have a Feb. 17 deadline for concessions to lower labor costs.

 
Interesting that the UAW is immune to things that affect the business and therefore the industry.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: [62vetteefp] by bpizzuti
Jan 09, 2009 (5:32 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 09, 2009 4:47 am)

The design concept originated in the United States; engineering was directed by GM's global rear-wheel-drive team in Australia; validation was conducted on roads around the world and assembly will take place at GM's award-winning Oshawa facility in Canada.
 
So basically the US part of the Camaro is...we thought of it. And maybe road-tested it here. They did the actual engineering design and assembly elsewhere.
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No more complaining.. by gagrice
Jan 09, 2009 (6:25 am)
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For those that like to complain about the states offering incentives to non domestic auto makers. Michigan has just done the same for battery makers. So they are trying to entice companies back into Michigan. No different than the So States giving tax breaks to new industry.
 
Not coincidentally, Michigan recently approved a $335 million package of tax breaks to encourage companies to build battery research and manufacturing facilities in the state
 
http://blogs.edmunds.com/greencaradvisor/2009/01/a123-systems-seeks-18-billion-f- - ederal-loan-for-ev-battery-factories-in-us.html
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Re: No more complaining.. [gagrice] by bpizzuti
Jan 09, 2009 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 09, 2009 6:25 am)

At least it's an American battery manufacturer.

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