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#31905 of 32000 Re: Cadillac, Acura [ateixeira] by michaell

Feb 12, 2013 (12:11 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 12, 2013 11:51 am)
I guess for people who aren't in to cars, it's cheaper and uses less fuel.
  
But why get a sports sedan at all, then?
 
How does that adage go ... "Better to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow".
 
Hey, you've got a Miata, you're the living embodiment of that statement.
 
I wouldn't mind the 320i .. 180HP is more than enough .. it's more about the 'grounded to the ground' ( ) feeling you get from driving a BMW.
 
The problem is, a 320i spec'd out the way I like would still run $40K.
 
If only BMW would put the 180HP engine into the 1-series ....

#31906 of 32000 Re: Cadillac, Acura [michaell] by ateixeira

Feb 12, 2013 (12:16 pm)

Replying to: michaell (Feb 12, 2013 12:11 pm)
Miata is light, you'd be surprised how quick it is, especially when you don't have to slow down for turns.
 
People seem to like GM's 2.0T, and BMW's 2.0T also. M-B's is not as powerful but it is a bit smoother than the Bimmer (I sampled them back to back). I wonder how the Caddy's compares in smoothness?

#31907 of 32000 Re: Cadillac, Acura [xrunner2] by tlong

Feb 12, 2013 (1:21 pm)

Replying to: xrunner2 (Feb 12, 2013 10:36 am)
Cadillac has trailed Acura for a long time, but maybe finally is catching up in quality and reliability in the last year or two. Perhaps Annual April CR issue will show Cadillac caught or surpassed Acura in the last 2 or 3 model years. We will see.
 
I also wonder what 5 or 7 years out looks like, rather than just 3 years. It's pretty easy to maintain reliability for a shorter period of time. There are a lot of people who do keep cars for well over 100K, so for them the long term reliability matters. Not so much if you change cars a lot.

#31908 of 32000 Re: Cadillac, Acura [uplanderguy] by tlong

Feb 12, 2013 (1:24 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Feb 12, 2013 11:00 am)
Even if an Acura is truly more reliable....I wouldn't buy such an ugly vehicle. I think they redid this feature, but that "Joker" grin in the front was truly hideous.
  
Plus...are any Acuras built in the U.S.? I don't know.
 
Agreed about the more recent Acuras. However my TL is a 2005 which IMHO is one of the nicest looking sedans around. Too bad they botched that all up - and the sales show it.
 
My TL was made in the US, 65% US parts content.

#31909 of 32000 Re: Cadillac, Acura [ateixeira] by tlong

Feb 12, 2013 (1:27 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 12, 2013 11:51 am)
But why get a sports sedan at all, then?
 
It's not all about power for some, but about handling.
 
We have a Mazda 5 which is a micro minivan and not very powerful, but I tell you that thing steers way better than my '05 Acura TL.

#31910 of 32000 Re: Cadillac, Acura [tlong] by busiris

Feb 12, 2013 (1:34 pm)

Replying to: tlong (Feb 12, 2013 1:27 pm)
I agree.... I have a 328i convertible with 230 HP. I get the sportiness without the excessive amperes under the hood.
 
If it had 300 hp like its larger sibling, I'd get myself into all kinds of trouble, and I typically don't drive aggressively (I'm 58 and passed that stage in life). I can't imagine the tickets I'd get with a M3 or ZL1...

#31911 of 32000 Re: Cadillac, Acura [busiris] by ateixeira

Feb 12, 2013 (1:44 pm)

Replying to: busiris (Feb 12, 2013 1:34 pm)
180hp is a lot less, though. And those aren't light cars.

#31912 of 32000 Re: Cadillac, Acura [ateixeira] by michaell

Feb 12, 2013 (2:16 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 12, 2013 1:44 pm)
180hp is a lot less, though. And those aren't light cars.
 
That is a good point.
 
One of my more favorite metrics when comparing cars is pounds per HP.
 
My fleet comprises of three vehicles:
 
2010 MINI - 21.76 lbs/hp
2010 Mazda CX-7 - 15.52 lbs/hp
2006 ION - 20.01 lbs/hp
 
The best car we've ever had was our '05 Saturn VUE (Honda V6 engine) - 14.52 lbs/hp - almost as good as a 128i (13.95) or Volvo C30 T5 (14.10) and better than a GTI (16.07), Mazda 3s (18.25) or Mini Clubman S (15.77).
 
I'll have to crunch the numbers on the 320i to see where it falls.

#31913 of 32000 Re: Cadillac, Acura [ateixeira] by busiris

Feb 12, 2013 (3:43 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 12, 2013 1:44 pm)
180hp is a lot less, though. And those aren't light cars.
 
Agreed. Thats why I have a 328... I also have my minimum requirements...

#31914 of 32000 Re: Cadillac, Acura [michaell] by ateixeira

Feb 12, 2013 (4:36 pm)

Replying to: michaell (Feb 12, 2013 2:16 pm)
My minivan has nearly 100hp more then the Miata, but the Miata is still quicker by far.
 
Not that the van is slow....

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