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#31890 of 32000 Re: GM failures in entry lux [xrunner2] by dieselone

Feb 12, 2013 (9:42 am)

Replying to: xrunner2 (Feb 12, 2013 9:32 am)
Catera's were junk. I had a coworker who leased a Catera in the early 2000's. It was always in the shop and She couldn't wait for the lease was up.
 
Plus my sister used to work at an Enterprise location that was inside a Cadillac dealer. She always talked about the rude Catera owners who always were getting rentals while their cars were in the shop.

#31891 of 32000 Re: Last year of Cavalier (rhymes) [uplanderguy] by andre1969

Feb 12, 2013 (9:43 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Feb 12, 2013 9:25 am)
think the biggest point of contention some will have with the new Impala's styling is the crease/dip in the rear door. I see it as homage to the rear quarter 'hips' of the '65-68 cars.
 
Yeah, I can sort of see that. It even has a bit of a skeg in the lower door that reminds me of the lower crease in my '67 Catalina. From certain angles, it also makes me think of that lower spear/dip that Buick tended to use over the years.

#31892 of 32000 Re: GM failures in entry lux [xrunner2] by greg128

Feb 12, 2013 (10:03 am)

Replying to: xrunner2 (Feb 12, 2013 9:32 am)
Cadillac has trailed Acura in terms of quality, reliability.
 
 Not any more:
 
According to a 2012 JD Power dependability study of model year 2009 cars,
Cadillac ranked 3rd among brands with an average of 104 problems per 100 vehicles, compared to 11th place Acura with 129 problems per 100 vehicles. Acura was very close to the average number of 132 per 100.

#31893 of 32000 Re: GM failurers in entry lux [dieselone] by uplanderguy

Feb 12, 2013 (10:24 am)

Replying to: dieselone (Feb 12, 2013 9:52 am)
I'd ride in the trunk of an SC before being seen in Cavalier of that period;)
 
Could've bought three or more for the same price...and it employed people who lived in my town (I know not yours though! ).
 
About the Catera...my old Chevy dealer was also a Caddy dealer. A tech whom I know wheeled a Catera in (this is a few years back) and I said to the Service Writer, a great guy who looks like President Obama (!), "the Caddy that zigs" and he said, "Yeah, it zigs all right" with a sigh!

#31894 of 32000 Cadillac, Acura by xrunner2

Feb 12, 2013 (10:36 am)

Replying to: greg128 (Feb 12, 2013 10:03 am)
Cadillac has trailed Acura for a long time, but maybe finally is catching up in quality and reliability in the last year or two. Perhaps Annual April CR issue will show Cadillac caught or surpassed Acura in the last 2 or 3 model years. We will see.
 
Older Cadillacs are to be avoided per CR Buying Guide 2013 page 186. Various CTS models and years as well as DTS, SRX, STS, DeVille, Escalade are listed as used cars to avoid. In contrast, not a single Acura model is listed as a used car to avoid.

#31895 of 32000 Re: Cadillac, Acura [xrunner2] by uplanderguy

Feb 12, 2013 (11:00 am)

Replying to: xrunner2 (Feb 12, 2013 10:36 am)
Even if an Acura is truly more reliable....I wouldn't buy such an ugly vehicle. I think they redid this feature, but that "Joker" grin in the front was truly hideous.
 
Plus...are any Acuras built in the U.S.? I don't know.
 
Purely unscientific, but it sure seems like Acura has Caddy beat lately...in the number of cars recalled, requiring what could well be an unscheduled visit to the dealer.

#31896 of 32000 Re: Cadillac, Acura [xrunner2] by ateixeira

Feb 12, 2013 (10:41 am)

Replying to: xrunner2 (Feb 12, 2013 10:36 am)
Acura lost their mojo - I'd rather have a 6 speed manual Legend than anything in their lineup today. The cars aren't bad, they're quite competent, there's just nothing you could lust after.
 
Caddy is the opposite - I really had no interest in any Cadillac models 15 years ago, but today I'd have trouble deciding between a CTS-V and an ATS.

#31897 of 32000 Re: Cadillac, Acura [uplanderguy] by xrunner2

Feb 12, 2013 (11:06 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Feb 12, 2013 11:00 am)
Even if an Acura is truly more reliable....I wouldn't buy such an ugly vehicle. I think they redid this feature, but that "Joker" grin in the front was truly hideous.
 
They goofed up in 2009 with that beak. Acura is due for a new generation TL in 2014. Maybe they will return to elegant and decent styling as they had in the previous gen 2004-2008.

#31898 of 32000 Re: Cadillac, Acura [ateixeira] by xrunner2

Feb 12, 2013 (11:11 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 12, 2013 10:41 am)
I really had no interest in any Cadillac models 15 years ago, but today I'd have trouble deciding between a CTS-V and an ATS.
 
Hard to imagine a Cadillac with a 4-cylinder engine. ATS harkens back to Cimmaron in that regard.
 
4-cyl ATS may handle better than 6-cyl. Will dealers load up the 6-cyl with all options and dealer installed stuff, than put a "market adjustment" of a few thousand dollars onto the overall price.

#31899 of 32000 Re: Cadillac, Acura [xrunner2] by ateixeira

Feb 12, 2013 (11:41 am)

Replying to: xrunner2 (Feb 12, 2013 11:11 am)
From what I've read the turbo 4 is the sweet spot. The V6 is nose heavy, the base engine a bit weak.
 
The market is too competitive for adjustments like that.
 
Hmm, spoke to soon? Fitzmall.com isn't even posting no-haggle prices, gotta click to get a quote. They must be really hot sellers.
 
I drove a $51k Jag with a 2.0T four banger. It's the new reality.

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