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#31862 of 32000 Re: Lower price [xrunner2]
by andres3
Feb 11, 2013 (5:51 pm)
let's bail out companies like KODAK, Kmart/Sears, Circuit City, Good Guys, Tweeter, Saab, Hummer, Saturn.
After all, bailouts are fantastic ideas and we should do more of them. Surely, there are companies out there more worthy of bailouts than GM and Chrysler.
Who makes muskets? How about horse carriages? Black and white TV's should be bailed out too (who needs color after all?)
Atari and Commodore gave me more hours of fun as a little child than GM or Chrysler ever will. Add them to the list!
#31863 of 32000 Re: Lower price [xrunner2]
by uplanderguy
Feb 11, 2013 (5:50 pm)
I would guess that the "elegant" "A" for Acura does not set well with dyed in the wool GM loyalists.
Were we not discussing...the Accord, not an Acura?
#31864 of 32000 Re: Lower price [uplanderguy]
by xrunner2
Feb 11, 2013 (6:14 pm)
Were we not discussing...the Accord, not an Acura?
Ah yes. The Accord. The Benchmark sedan for about 25 plus years. The world-standard.
But, with regard to Acura and Lexus, GM never, ever had a competing model until perhaps the CTS. And, the early CTS fell far short of the Acura and Lexus.
The Oldsmobile tried but failed and is now dead. The Cadillac responses in the 90's failed.
#31865 of 32000 Re: Lower price [xrunner2]
by uplanderguy
Feb 11, 2013 (6:16 pm)
Good for you. Go Japan!
#31866 of 32000 GM failurers in entry lux
by xrunner2
Feb 11, 2013 (6:23 pm)
Cimmaron, Catera, and the Cadillac featured on a Married with Children Comedy show episode, Allante. Anybody seen what these models, if still around, are fetching on car auctions? What a joke.
#31867 of 32000 Re: Lower price [uplanderguy]
by andres3
Feb 11, 2013 (6:29 pm)
Not all is lost to Japan. We got more gold medals than them at the last Olympics!
#31869 of 32000 Re: Lower price [xrunner2]
by tlong
Feb 11, 2013 (7:27 pm)
Ah yes. The Accord. The Benchmark sedan for about 25 plus years. The world-standard.
I would think that most people buy cars on their merits rather than how the badge looks. There are certainly a lot of more important qualities to me than the looks of the badge. Perhaps that's more important to others.
#31870 of 32000 Re: GM failurers in entry lux [xrunner2]
by greg128
Feb 11, 2013 (7:51 pm)
Cimmaron, Catera, and the Cadillac featured on a Married with Children Comedy show episode, Allante. Anybody seen what these models, if still around, are fetching on car auctions? What a joke
I just checked ebay motors and it seems the Allantes are fetching quite a bit more than Lexus, Infiniti or Acura (with the exception of NSX)
Some cars with actual bids:
'93 Lexus SC - 85K miles - 3 bids - $510
"91 Acura Legend - 184K miles - 18 bids - $1450
'91 Cadillac Allante - 61K miles - 32 bids - $5700
How about a '95 Fleetwood D'Elegance - 37K miles - 15 bids - over $9000
#31871 of 32000 Re: GM failurers in entry lux [greg128]
by greg128
Feb 11, 2013 (8:34 pm)
I also found a 2000 Catera with 3 bids only $500 less than a 2000 Lexus ES with 9 bids. $3550 vs. $4051. Both low mileage.
No Cimmarons on ebay.