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#31807 of 32000 Re: Last year of Cavalier (rhymes) [busiris]
Feb 10, 2013 (12:45 pm)
Me, too. I know precisely, and I mean precisely, what I want when I go in and I don't accept substitutions! In my 13 new cars, only two were bought off the dealer's lot...the rest were dealer trades except for one which I ordered. And even one of the two I bought off the dealer's lot was a real oddball (four-door Cavalier with 5-speed) and they had done a dealer trade for somebody else and that person didn't buy the car.
#31808 of 32000 Re: 2012 Used Car Buying Guide - CR [imidazol97]
Feb 10, 2013 (12:57 pm)
The Sienna, but I take the blame - left the kids in the car watching a DVD and took longer than I thought. Much longer. Drained the battery and it was cold.
Jump started it, and the battery actually worked by the time I got home, but I just didn't trust it at that point, so I replaced it.
#31809 of 32000 At the risk of stirring up a hornet's nest...
Feb 10, 2013 (12:52 pm)
Walking back to my car in the grocery store parking lot a few minutes ago, I found an attractive gunmetal grey Captiva LTZ parked immediately next to me. I'm guessing it was nearly new, since it still had the remains on the window of what appeared to have once been a dealer window sticker.
I looked the vehicle over closely and couldn't find any rental car identification, but that doesn't mean it couldn't have been a business fleet purchase. The tag showed it was licensed in Rutherford County, TN.
I waited a few minutes for the owner to show up, but finally left after a no-show. I was curious to ask him/her questions about the vehicle, and how they liked it.
It was a nice looking, smaller -sized SUV, IMO.
#31810 of 32000 Re: New Fusion vs. Malibu [uplanderguy]
Feb 10, 2013 (12:58 pm)
Fords look great and they seem to be on the sporty side if each segment, but I am concerned to say the least. They've had botched launches for each new product and several sources show concerns on quality/reliability. A co-worker had her Fiesta's whole trans replaced.
I hope the faults they found on the Fusion are sorted out by the time they move production out of Mexico.
The hybrid still scored high and appears to be a good value. I'm just not going to be the first guy on the block to buy one.
#31811 of 32000 Re: New Fusion vs. Malibu [ateixeira]
Feb 10, 2013 (1:24 pm)
I'm just not going to be the first guy on the block to buy one.
I think that is good advice for anyone interested in a new model introduction, regardless of manufacturer.
I'm of the opinion that those who simply must have the "latest and greatest" new design/model also assume a large part of the "debugging" process that cars go through when they finally hit the market.
#31812 of 32000 Re: At the risk of stirring up a hornet's nest... [busiris]
Feb 10, 2013 (2:39 pm)
> licensed in Rutherford County, TN.
That's Murfreesboro TN's county, which may include the Nissan plant area there.
Are you in TN?
#31813 of 32000 Re: At the risk of stirring up a hornet's nest... [imidazol97]
Feb 10, 2013 (3:10 pm)
No, for better or worse, I live in upstate SC, approximately 10 miles from the BMW manufacturing plant.
#31814 of 32000 Re: A Chevy comes in fourth [uplanderguy]
Feb 10, 2013 (4:18 pm)
But other than the market abandoning the category (it did in 1988 for the Monte, but GM execs didn't get the memo), why were the others phased out? They withered on the vine. Many others seem to be able to make competent vans and even 4 door liftbacks.
I think Avalon might have replaced a middle range Buick
To be fair, Echo was just the US name of what was the Yaris elsewhere, for many years. I'd blame marketers for that one.
Scion is a very cynical marketing exercise, and it warms my heart when I see older people driving them.
#31815 of 32000 Re: Last year of Cavalier (rhymes) [xrunner2]
Feb 10, 2013 (7:20 pm)
Smart consumers consider a variety of input in making their buying decisions, whether for cars or refrigerators. Input would include from those such as Edmunds, CR, Car and Driver, Motor Trend, Road and Track, Automobile and other publications whose job is to test and evaluate and give opinions on cars and other motor vehicles.
There are certainly SOME consumers who fall into other categories:
* The person who will consider many manufacturers but has a few they won't consider.
* The person who will only consider one manufacturer no matter what.
I think we have all three types on this board.
#31816 of 32000 Re: A Chevy comes in fourth [busiris]
Feb 11, 2013 (4:35 am)
I don't believe the names Impala, Malibu, and Camaro would have returned if they had the big negative equity so many seem to say.
I think that's a fair statement. Why start out with a hindrance?
I don't. Why drop a name and spend the money building up a new one unless the current one has become a liability? Especially Impala and Malibu, which were out of action for a LONG time.
As for not saying "boo" about other companies' name changes, I already responded. Toyota has a decent list of retired nameplates. GM has a much longer list, and this is a GM forum. So while Toyota has retired the Corona, Cressida, Celica, Echo, Tercel, arguably the Camry Solara, and the MR2, GM has retired the Vega, Corvair, Caprice, Citation, Chevelle, Chevette, Cavalier, Cobalt, Metro, Tracker, Beretta, Corsica, Blazer, Blazer again (the S-10 version), and this is just Chevy, without getting into the entire Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Saturn, and Hummer lineups of nameplates. The Caprice PPV, of course, is a separate name from Caprice.
Anyone still want to compare Toyota to GM? Thought not.