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#31758 of 32000 Re: Taking a Vacation [uplanderguy]
by xrunner2
Feb 09, 2013 (7:12 am)
I might add, I still believe that there is no sane reason whatsoever why a Chevy version of a GMC product should have any reliability difference whatsoever from the GMC.
There is definitely a difference between Chevy and GMC besides appearance. What is it? Quality, reliability, closer tolerances, better components? Why would GM have spent many millions on commercials over the years telling us that GMC is "Professional Grade".
#31759 of 32000 Re: Taking a Vacation [xrunner2]
by uplanderguy
Feb 09, 2013 (8:00 am)
Go to a GM plant where both are built. One will follow the other straight down the assembly line.
#31760 of 32000 Re: Cruze diesel to start at $25,695 [andres3]
by ateixeira
Feb 09, 2013 (8:43 am)
It's funny you mention ridiculous interest rates because Marchionne actually complained about just that, I think it was over 20%.
So indeed the rate was absurd.
US basically exploited the help from Fiat.
#31761 of 32000 Re: Cruze diesel to start at $25,695 [ateixeira]
by carthell
Feb 09, 2013 (9:04 am)
On the other hand, absolutely no one else on the private market at the time would lend to Chrysler any money at any amount or cost.
Sounds like the classic payday loan situation to me.
#31762 of 32000 Re: Cruze diesel to start at $25,695 [carthell]
by ateixeira
Feb 09, 2013 (9:05 am)
When the shoe is on the other foot, we call them predatory lenders.
#31763 of 32000 Re: Taking a Vacation [uplanderguy]
by busiris
Feb 09, 2013 (9:14 am)
That '56 Chevy is a lovely car and a favorite Chevy of mine in a favorite color scheme of mine, but there was no such thing as a '56 Chevy Biscayne.
IIRC, the Biscayne came out in 1958..,
#31764 of 32000 Re: Taking a Vacation [uplanderguy]
by berri
Feb 09, 2013 (10:03 am)
I might add, I still believe that there is no sane reason whatsoever why a Chevy version of a GMC product should have any reliability difference whatsoever from the GMC.
Do buyers equip GMC with more options and electronics perhaps, or do they sell a much greater proportion of heavy duty trucks at GMC than Chevy? Otherwise, it may well be an aberration. Probably sampling error like too few GMC responses, or possibly GMC owners less/more inclined to report problems because they're embarrassed that they paid more than the Chevy?
#31765 of 32000 A Chevy comes in fourth
by xrunner2
Feb 09, 2013 (10:09 am)
A newspaper in our region reported that Chevy Cruze came in fourth in 2012 sales in compact car segment. The Honda Civic, the benchmark auto for many years, was first with 317,909. The Toyota Corolla was second at 290,947. The Ford Focus was 245,992. The Chevy Cruze was 237,758. Elantra, Sentra and Forte came in at 202,034, 106,395 and 75,681 respectively.
Newspaper said that Civic model has been offered by Honda for 40 years.
Chevrolet has gone through and discarded many small/compact car models in the last 40 or so years. Vega, Chevette, Cavalier, Cobalt. Can GM or Chevrolet ever unseat Honda Civic as the standard, the benchmark. The Saturn experiment did not work. Perhaps Cruze will eventually succeed.
Feb 09, 2013 (10:17 am)
For years, GM has been telling us that GMC was "Professional Grade". Is that supposed to mean it is better in one or more ways than their other offerings with Chevrolet? Or, was GM trying to suggest that GMC, rather than Chevrolet, was Professional Grade in that professionals, building contractors, supervisors, ranch foremen, etc drove GMC trucks and mere workers, carpenters, bricklayers, etc drove Chevrolets. Was GM trying to set up a class distinction?
#31767 of 32000 Re: A Chevy comes in fourth [xrunner2]
by uplanderguy
Feb 09, 2013 (10:46 am)
The Saturn "experiment"...lasted twenty years.
Corvette, Camaro, Impala, Malibu, and Suburban were in use in 1975. What Toyota and Honda names are being used now that were used then? Corolla, and Civic. Cavalier was used for 24 model years.
Toyota has dumped Solara, Echo, Tercel, MR2, Corona, Cressida, and more I'm missing for sure.