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#31749 of 32000 Re: Taking a Vacation [uplanderguy] by circlew

Feb 08, 2013 (7:16 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Feb 08, 2013 4:18 pm)
Buick and GMC don't share any product, do they--other than a single SUV? Rather apples and oranges.

OK, your right. Let's try Chevy and GMC. Use that one to compare against HyunKia.
 
Apples/Apples.
 
There is one overriding reason why the West Point, Ga. assembled Optima is Kia’s best seller: value for the dollar. And don’t forget the long 10-year, 100,000-mile limited powertrain warranty and 5-year, 50,000-mile basic coverage. Not to mention a “recommended” rating from Consumer Reports.
 
"Hello, Chevy? Anyone at home??"
 
Regards,
OW

#31750 of 32000 Re: Why the hate? [circlew] by busiris

Feb 08, 2013 (7:15 pm)

Replying to: circlew (Feb 08, 2013 6:58 pm)
Say what you want, but IMO the domestic cars built from the mid 1950's into the early 1960's were truly art forms that provided transportation.
 
There were some very real masterpieces made back then.
 
I enjoy watching old TV episodes such as the original Perry Mason series, because that show seemed to highlight so many convertibles of the era. In that pretend world, everyone drove convertibles.

#31751 of 32000 Re: Why the hate? [busiris] by circlew

Feb 08, 2013 (7:19 pm)

Replying to: busiris (Feb 08, 2013 7:15 pm)
EXACTLY! They WERE works of ART!!! Couldn't agree more.
 
The Corvette truly embodies that lost art at GM. It used to be almost every car.
 
Regards,
OW

#31752 of 32000 Re: Cruze diesel to start at $25,695 [andres3] by scwmcan

Feb 08, 2013 (7:47 pm)

Replying to: andres3 (Feb 08, 2013 5:46 pm)
As I recall Chryslers recent loans were at a higher interest rate than they could get once money in the private sector was available again, this was the reason they got private sector financing to pay off their government loans as quickly as possible. I know you don't like them ( with reason) but at least in the second bailout the interest rate was high ( not 100% like you want ( loan sharking anyone) but still higher than normal, if they had been able to get financing from another source I think they would have) ( on the other hand I don't recall of the got additional money above and beyond the loans like GM did). In any case as far as I know their money has been repaid with whatever interest was owed

#31753 of 32000 Re: Pickups [xrunner2] by tlong

Feb 08, 2013 (8:55 pm)

Replying to: xrunner2 (Feb 08, 2013 6:58 pm)
Isn't GM the world leader in full size pickup trucks? Chevrolet, GMC?
 
Shouldn't the world's largest (until recently) auto maker be able to put out a full line of competitive vehicles? Otherwise just dump the cars and be the truck company.

#31754 of 32000 Re: Pickups [tlong] by fho2008

Feb 09, 2013 (1:10 am)

Replying to: tlong (Feb 08, 2013 8:55 pm)
Fiat is trying that with Ram. But they still make cars.

#31755 of 32000 Re: Taking a Vacation [circlew] by uplanderguy

Feb 09, 2013 (4:10 am)

Replying to: circlew (Feb 08, 2013 7:16 pm)
Man, with that excellent warranty (although Honda runs an entire commercial around here goofing on a long warranty--WTH?!), it's too bad apparently they can't engineer a base-model Optima that tests better than the new "lame" Malibu.
 
That '56 Chevy is a lovely car and a favorite Chevy of mine in a favorite color scheme of mine, but there was no such thing as a '56 Chevy Biscayne.
 
I might add, I still believe that there is no sane reason whatsoever why a Chevy version of a GMC product should have any reliability difference whatsoever from the GMC.
 
I'd have to dig to find the link/reference, but a friend sends me online "Automotive News" clips every so often and in the last month he sent one that said that Detroit has 92% of the truck market share. It suddenly became so much more apparent to me why they focus so much on trucks.

#31756 of 32000 Re: Taking a Vacation [uplanderguy] by dieselone

Feb 09, 2013 (6:51 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Feb 09, 2013 4:10 am)
I'd have to dig to find the link/reference, but a friend sends me online "Automotive News" clips every so often and in the last month he sent one that said that Detroit has 92% of the truck market share. It suddenly became so much more apparent to me why they focus so much on trucks.
 
That's one area where Detroit dominates and where the vast majority of the profits come from.
 
No question I'd buy a domestic pickup, but with cars it wouldn't be likely.

#31757 of 32000 Re: Cruze diesel to start at $25,695 [uplanderguy] by robr2

Feb 09, 2013 (7:01 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Feb 08, 2013 5:11 pm)
To this day, in snowy, salty NE OH, I bet I see the second-generation Neons a few times a week.
 
I'll concur. I see dozens every week. Heck my neighbor has 3 of them for his kids and himself.

#31758 of 32000 Re: Taking a Vacation [uplanderguy] by xrunner2

Feb 09, 2013 (7:12 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Feb 09, 2013 4:10 am)
I might add, I still believe that there is no sane reason whatsoever why a Chevy version of a GMC product should have any reliability difference whatsoever from the GMC.
 
There is definitely a difference between Chevy and GMC besides appearance. What is it? Quality, reliability, closer tolerances, better components? Why would GM have spent many millions on commercials over the years telling us that GMC is "Professional Grade".

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