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#31735 of 32000 Re: Taking a Vacation [uplanderguy] by circlew

Feb 08, 2013 (4:01 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Feb 08, 2013 5:55 am)
Stay focused on the current car, OW. Vaunted CR felt, apparently, the lower-priced model was better engineered than the lower-line Optima. My guess is that next year it'll be 'recommended'.
 
Seems the Lower-Line Optima was Recomended but not the Impal or Malibu. Fact!
  
In the meantime, at least people with short back-seat riders should see some excellent buys before the CR hangers-on find out!
  
I don't buy CR, but thumb through it for free. What is your take on Hyundai's black dots and why do you think that Kia (apparently) is better when they are the same company? Honest question.
 
Same reason Buick has better reliability than GMC.
 
Regards,
OW

#31736 of 32000 Re: Taking a Vacation [circlew] by uplanderguy

Feb 08, 2013 (4:18 pm)

Replying to: circlew (Feb 08, 2013 4:01 pm)
Buick and GMC don't share any product, do they--other than a single SUV? Rather apples and oranges.

#31737 of 32000 Re: Cruze diesel to start at $25,695 [uplanderguy] by andres3

Feb 08, 2013 (4:47 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Feb 08, 2013 4:35 am)
I think a very distinct difference is people need to move on from their 1995 or older experiences.
 
But it bothers me wholeheartedly that Chrysler kept selling the Neon model well into the 21st Century. They sold them to unsuspecting customers in '96, '97, '98, '99, '00 and beyond.
 
Why they didn't cancel the factories and vehicle after one to two years of dismal results is beyond me.
 
I suppose it has something to do with the UAW getting paid whether they make garbage or not.

#31738 of 32000 Re: Cruze diesel to start at $25,695 [uplanderguy] by greg128

Feb 08, 2013 (4:48 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Feb 08, 2013 3:34 pm)
I like the black and white. I'd pass on the continental tire but I don't mind the skirts:
 

#31739 of 32000 Re: Cruze diesel to start at $25,695 [greg128] by uplanderguy

Feb 08, 2013 (5:07 pm)

Replying to: greg128 (Feb 08, 2013 4:48 pm)
Geez, that's pretty. Now that I think about it, the skirts might have been standard on a Crown Victoria. They're not bad, like those aftermarket ones that go the whole way to the back bumper!
 
As the cars got older--way older--I remember seeing them around without the headlight rims, and the chrome 'banjo' like trim on the taillights would come off. I have no idea if this is actually for real or not, but I remember my uncle saying that the headlight rims were only held on by one screw.
 
I don't recall '56 Fords rusting out over the headlights like '56 Chevys do. That said, I'd be proud to have either in my garage.

#31740 of 32000 Re: Cruze diesel to start at $25,695 [uplanderguy] by fintail

Feb 08, 2013 (5:09 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Feb 08, 2013 5:07 pm)
My dad's first new car was a 56 Crown Vic - odd choice for a kid in the air force. It was some kind of leftover, and according to him was a special order single tone black car, never seen one like that in real life.

#31741 of 32000 Re: Cruze diesel to start at $25,695 [andres3] by uplanderguy

Feb 08, 2013 (5:11 pm)

Replying to: andres3 (Feb 08, 2013 4:47 pm)
But it bothers me wholeheartedly that Chrysler kept selling the Neon model well into the 21st Century. They sold them to unsuspecting customers in '96, '97, '98, '99, '00 and beyond.
 
To this day, in snowy, salty NE OH, I bet I see the second-generation Neons a few times a week. Most don't look bad, either. I haven't seen a first-gen in quite a while. I think that says that at least they (second-gen Neons) are cheap to keep up. I also still see a ton of '96-02 Cavalier coupes around, most looking OK too. But then, those were built not far from here, unlike the Neons.

#31742 of 32000 More on Cruze TD engine by ateixeira

Feb 08, 2013 (5:21 pm)

http://green.autoblog.com/2013/02/08/why-gms-2-0-liter-diesel-is-cleaner-in-amer- icas-cruze-than-it/

#31743 of 32000 Re: Cruze diesel to start at $25,695 [greg128] by andres3

Feb 08, 2013 (5:46 pm)

Replying to: greg128 (Feb 08, 2013 3:14 pm)
I really don't think they STOLE our/your money.
 
If I steal 100 billion dollars from the US treasury, and return it 10 years later, is it not still theft?
 
Give me a break!
 
I'd of charged Chrysler 100% interest rates and required collateral for loans. I'm sure the gov't was far nicer with there terms than the average person would have been, otherwise, they'd of received loans from the private market.

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