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Replying to: circlew (Jan 06, 2009 11:17 am) It'll be interesting to see the final plan. How to convince us we deserve no success. First write that the D3 products are bad. Then, when that is refuted, say that they are good but at some time in the distant past they were bad, therefore we still wish to be unsupportive of our own economy forever. Then, to further confuse, argue that American cars are made elsewhere and that Toyota is an American company. The final plan??? The bailouts get stopped and we supply raw materials and unskilled labor as the middle class shrinks.
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 07, 2009 7:08 pm) |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 07, 2009 7:08 pm) If I remember correctly Onstar was a great selling point and it also lost GM a lot of loyal customers. When the FCC allowed the Cell carriers to dump analog Cell service it left 1000s of Onstar customers stranded. GM did not offer to upgrade the early analog equipped vehicles. I remember reading of many disgruntled GM customers lost forever over that blunder. From what I am seeing, GM takes one step forward and two backward on a regular basis. |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 07, 2009 7:10 pm) DETROIT, Jan 7 (Reuters) - Battery maker A123 Systems plans to build automotive battery manufacturing facilities in the United States and has applied for $1.84 billion in government loans to fund the construction, the company said on Wednesday. A123, which is competing to supply next-generation lithium-ion batteries for General Motors Corp's (GM.N) all-electric Chevy Volt, said it planned to invest $2.3 billion for the proposed U.S. manufacturing facilities, with the first plant to be located in southeast Michigan. And yet another Volt rumor from 4 hours ago: Back in October, GM-Volt’s Lyle Dennis seemed to confirm a Reuters report that LG/Compact had won. “As we have heard before in a subtle way from GM vice-chairman Bob Lutz,” wrote Dennis, “GM was only using one supplier’s packs in the mules. Concurrently, we had heard from Compact Power’s CEO that his batteries were being used in the mules. Sources have now confirmed this is the case and that the mules packs are performing flawlessly.” So really, who knows. GM may well be saving the announcement for the forthcoming Detroit Auto Show. |
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 07, 2009 10:36 am) **** I *did* call it. GM doesn't want anyone to know where the bailout money is really going because it's all gong overseas to basically get the hell out of the U.S. when it comes to manufacturing. They say stuff in the press and lie through their teeth, but if the guys in China say they're going to be building them there, I know which newspapers to believe. Moral - only buy cars with a 1 as the first number in the VIN. Anything else is literally shipping dollars out of our economy and overseas.
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jan 07, 2009 8:06 pm) No one deserves success, it has to be worked for and earned...rather than given away as, like, a bailout.  Many of the D3 products ARE bad, many more were bad in the past and left such a bad taste in people's mouths that they refuse to even consider them (this is the major Problem Ford is having: they've improved now but they have to get people beyond old perceptions and willing to consider them again). Incidentally, the Fusion (Consumer Reports's highest rated midsize as far as driving AND reliability) is made in Mexico. Several Ford, GM, and Chrysler vehicles are NOT made in the United States, and therefore do NOT support jobs in the USA. Several Toyotas, Hondas, Nissans, and Subarus are in fact made in the United States and do support jobs here. So it's not so simple as "D3 are American, and therefore support American jobs!" So it in fact IS confusing by nature. Live with it. Personally I don't consider where the car is built and which country the company chooses as home anymore, it's gotten TOO confusing. I look at the car. Period. Make the best car for my needs and you earn my money. If GM and Chrysler can't make cars people are willing to pay them enough to make a profit on, then they DON'T deserve success. It's that simple.
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 08, 2009 3:20 am) You hit the nail on the head and if that sounds negative, so be it. Take it as you see it. For me, I leave the brand which again has the chance to reinvent itself. We will see. Regards, OW |
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GM just released the info on the new LaCrosse. It is over on LLN and I cannot believe the comments from the peanut gallery. They are usually very negative on domestics. Steve, where is Edmunds on this? They have video also. http://www.leftlanenews.com/buick-lacrosse.html
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Replying to: plekto (Jan 07, 2009 11:52 pm) 1, 4, or 5. |
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http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090108/AUTO01/901080403 Metro Detroit's hard-pressed arts organizations are reeling from a new blow. The GM Foundation has asked high-profile presenters like the Detroit Symphony Orchestra and Michigan Opera Theatre to exclude the foundation from budget planning effective immediately. That means MOT will not receive any of the $250,000 the GM Foundation had pledged for its longstanding sponsorship of the opera's spring season. The foundation also has canceled this year's pledges of $350,000 to Music Hall Center for the Performing Arts and $100,000 to the DSO. The cancellations are part of the GM Foundation's global suspension of major gift disbursements that amounted to $31.4 million in 2007, the last year for which the foundation has a complete accounting.
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