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Re: Toyota cutting production in Japan [kernick] by imidazol97
Jan 07, 2009 (3:57 pm)
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Replying to: kernick (Jan 07, 2009 1:13 pm)

>Does it make you feel better to post things about Toyota or any other carmaker on this GM website?
 
It's all a part of the market forces for automobiles.
 
Why not post the news? Many people continually post everything they feel is good about Toyota to put down the products that GM makes..., why shouldn't Toyota's problems be listed?
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Re: GM says it may not need more loans [kernick] by 62vetteefp
Jan 07, 2009 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: kernick (Jan 07, 2009 12:56 pm)

So I'm not quite sure what this means for 2010. They will or won't need another loan?
 
Good point. GM will not need anymore loans if the sales do not get worse than what is now considered worst case. '09 on. As has been posted here GM has cost savings coming over the next year to lower overhead and the cost of vehicles to be profitable. Loan repayment is part of the restructuring plan.
 
http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServlet?target=http://image.emerald.gm.com/ne- wspublisher/support_file/12-02-2008/38/081202%20Congressional%20Submission%20Fin- al.pdf
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Re: Toyota cutting production in Japan [imidazol97] by 62vetteefp
Jan 07, 2009 (6:04 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 07, 2009 3:57 pm)

Actually there is always so much negativity here on the failure of GM. From the comments here it would look like it is only GM that is closing plants and the competition is doing fine. The report posted showed that it is not just GM that is having issues in this economy. Seems pertinent to the discussion here.
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Toyota OnStar by 62vetteefp
Jan 07, 2009 (7:08 pm)
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Looks like GM has some competition. Will be interesting to see the annual fee.
 
Toyota Motor Sales has announced a new in-car convenience telematics program for select Toyota and Lexus models that sounds a lot like GM's popular OnStar program. The proprietary system will be dubbed Safety Connect for Toyota buyers and Lexus Enform for ToMoCo's luxury brand. There's a lengthy press release after the jump, but here are the salient points. Safety Connect is the core service and, as its name implies, is designed to give drivers additional peace of mind.
 
The system features four different safety and security elements: Automatic Collision Notification (ACN), an Emergency Assistance Button (SOS), Stolen Vehicle Location (SVL), and Roadside Assistance. Using embedded cellular and GPS, it can signal help if there's an airbag deployment or a severe rear-end collision. If the system isn't triggered automatically, the Emergency Assistance Button (SOS) can be used to contact the help center manually. If the car is stolen it can be tracked once a police report is filed. The system also includes Roadside Assistance through the SOS button when the driver needs mechanical assistance.

 
Lexus did use GM's OnStar system
 
After years of quiet talks with General Motors Corp., Toyota Motor Corp. this week will unveil its 2001 Lexus luxury sedans equipped with its rival's OnStar in-vehicle communications service.
The licensing deal with Toyota puts GM solidly ahead of the automotive pack in developing in-vehicle Web and cellular communications systems. It should also help GM inch closer to its $61 million year-end revenue target for OnStar sales. But the pact is expected to have little near-term impact on Toyota's Lexus sales in the U.S., Lexus dealers said.
GM launched OnStar, a satellite-based Global Positioning System (GPS) mapping and cellular calling service three years ago.
Aichi, Japan-based Toyota will begin shipping the 2001 Lexus LS 430 to its dealers on Thursday. The restyled vehicle has a suggested price tag of $54,000. GM's OnStar service, which Toyota has rebranded as Lexus Link, is available as a factory-installed option at a cost of $1,215.
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Volt battery source? by 62vetteefp
Jan 07, 2009 (7:10 pm)
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Looks like the Volt batteries will be built here?
 
A Massachusetts battery designer said today it plans to build a manufacturing plant in southeast Michigan to supply batteries for Detroit automakers
 
A123 Systems says the plant will be the first of several across the country that could eventually employ 14,000 people and supply batteries for 5 million hybrid vehicles or 500,000 plug-in hybrids by 2013. The company says it will spend $2.3 billion on the factories, and has applied for $1.8 billion in federal loans under the $25-billion advanced technology program that Congress funded last year.
 
While automakers around the world have been planning to use lithium-ion batteries in future hybrids and all-electric vehicles, most of the world’s manufacturing of such batteries is in Asia. Only one firm, Enerdel, currently builds lithium-ion vehicle batteries in the United States
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Re: 2008 Sales (Final Figures) [m4d_cow] by dave8697
Jan 07, 2009 (7:14 pm)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 07, 2009 10:10 am)

Feel free to live with the 5k up front, but I hope you won;t cry like hell later when the resale value plummets. I think for the long term, not just up front.
 
getting a good price at the time of the sale helps allow you to not have to worry about resale value. As far as long term, the 5k saved up front saves hundreds more on day 1 in sales taxes, and grows with compounding (at the car loan rate since less has to be borrowed) while both car choices drop fast in value. Even the Accord loses $4k or more in year one.
 
If it was MT car of the year in 2008, wasn't it scrutinized carefully and is actually a below average choice as far as risk goes?
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Re: 2008 Sales (Final Figures) [circlew] by dave8697
Jan 07, 2009 (8:06 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Jan 06, 2009 11:17 am)

The foreign brands can reap that benefit you mentioned because they earned it. We are experienceing the effects of what the D3 have earned.
  
It'll be interesting to see the final plan.

 
How to convince us we deserve no success. First write that the D3 products are bad. Then, when that is refuted, say that they are good but at some time in the distant past they were bad, therefore we still wish to be unsupportive of our own economy forever. Then, to further confuse, argue that American cars are made elsewhere and that Toyota is an American company.
 
The final plan??? The bailouts get stopped and we supply raw materials and unskilled labor as the middle class shrinks.
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Re: Toyota OnStar [62vetteefp] by steve_ HOST
Jan 07, 2009 (8:07 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 07, 2009 7:08 pm)

That's funny, because I just read a blurb that said Toyota was playing catch-up to Ford's popular Sync system and didn't mention GM or OnStar at all.
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Re: Toyota OnStar [62vetteefp] by gagrice
Jan 07, 2009 (8:53 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 07, 2009 7:08 pm)

Looks like GM has some competition. Lexus did use GM's OnStar system
 
If I remember correctly Onstar was a great selling point and it also lost GM a lot of loyal customers. When the FCC allowed the Cell carriers to dump analog Cell service it left 1000s of Onstar customers stranded. GM did not offer to upgrade the early analog equipped vehicles. I remember reading of many disgruntled GM customers lost forever over that blunder. From what I am seeing, GM takes one step forward and two backward on a regular basis.
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Re: Volt battery source? [62vetteefp] by gagrice
Jan 07, 2009 (9:19 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 07, 2009 7:10 pm)

The contract still is up in the air. A123 is looking for some of the easy money from a big spending Congress. There are several companies still in the running. One that is already making Li-Ion car batteries in Indiana.
 
DETROIT, Jan 7 (Reuters) - Battery maker A123 Systems plans to build automotive battery manufacturing facilities in the United States and has applied for $1.84 billion in government loans to fund the construction, the company said on Wednesday.
 
A123, which is competing to supply next-generation lithium-ion batteries for General Motors Corp's (GM.N) all-electric Chevy Volt,
said it planned to invest $2.3 billion for the proposed U.S. manufacturing facilities, with the first plant to be located in southeast Michigan.
 
And yet another Volt rumor from 4 hours ago:
 
Back in October, GM-Volt’s Lyle Dennis seemed to confirm a Reuters report that LG/Compact had won. “As we have heard before in a subtle way from GM vice-chairman Bob Lutz,” wrote Dennis, “GM was only using one supplier’s packs in the mules. Concurrently, we had heard from Compact Power’s CEO that his batteries were being used in the mules. Sources have now confirmed this is the case and that the mules packs are performing flawlessly.” So really, who knows. GM may well be saving the announcement for the forthcoming Detroit Auto Show.

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