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by m4d_cow
Jan 07, 2009 (10:36 am)
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Meanwhile, a little translated piece of the article (may be a bit weird as I translate it myself):
"Chevrolet production plant in Shenyang, Liaoning province is to become the most productive GM factory in China, capable of assembling and shipping 150,000 Cruzes worldwide every year. About 10% of production planned to be shipped to America. Production will start from 4th month (I think it means 2nd quarter) of 2009, according to GM partner SAIC"
 
A pretty small number, and I admit I don't know for sure whether America means USA or other American countries or both. I'll keep checking.
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Re: 2008 Sales (Final Figures) [m4d_cow] by 62vetteefp
Jan 07, 2009 (10:37 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 07, 2009 10:22 am)

I went to the CCTV site and the only thing that came up on cruze was dated 11/28/08 and only showed a picture of it. But that seems strange since I would expect more about a new china built car.
 
http://www.cctv.com/program/bizchina/20081120/104862.shtml
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Re: 2008 Sales (Final Figures) [62vetteefp] by m4d_cow
Jan 07, 2009 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 07, 2009 10:31 am)

I guess it is possible. The Cruz will be built at Lordstown and as far as I can tell it is the only product there. 2 shifts can build ~240,000 and 3 shift almost 350,000. And there is no 2nd US plant planned. So if they can sell over 350,000 per year they can import from China or any other of the 5 or so plants. I doubt they would open a 2nd plant here.
 
I'm not sure sales will reach 300k annually, but if Cruze sells really well it's possible GM prepares some from China to keep up (compared to the current Focus in the top 10, it should have no problem overtaking Focus' slot).
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Re: 2008 Sales (Final Figures) [62vetteefp] by m4d_cow
Jan 07, 2009 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 07, 2009 10:37 am)

Yes, I just checked the web and I'm surprised they skipped loads of updates, even more so in the english version...
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GM says it may not need more loans by 62vetteefp
Jan 07, 2009 (12:25 pm)
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Since GMAC was taken care of (that was part of the monies GM had asked for) they may not need anymore loan money IF sales do not go below 10.5 million.
 
General Motors Corp. said it has enough government loans to cover its worst-case forecast for U.S. auto sales and won’t need more if the economy holds up.
 
Pledges from the U.S. Treasury for as much as $13.4 billion to help GM pay bills and $6 billion to prop up lender GMAC LLC will meet “our liquidity needs under the scenarios outlined in our December plan to Congress,” spokesman Greg Martin said yesterday.
 
In December, GM requested $18 billion in federal loans, saying that was what it needed to make it to 2010. That number factored in GM's 49 percent stake in its struggling financial unit, GMAC Financial.
 
But GMAC gained status as a bank holding company and secured $6 billion of its own federal funding. The U.S. Treasury Department gave GMAC $5 billion in exchange for preferred stock in the financing company and lent GM $1 billion to invest in GMAC.
 
"So in actuality," said the source familiar with GM's finances, the amount the government delivered "was substantially higher than the $18 billion GM asked for."
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Toyota cutting production in Japan by 62vetteefp
Jan 07, 2009 (12:27 pm)
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Toyota is suspending production at all 12 of its Japanese plants for 11 days over February and March, a stoppage of unprecedented scale for the nation's top automaker as it grapples with shrinking global demand.
 
The last time Toyota Motor Corp. halted production at all its Japan plants was in August 1993, when demand plunged because of a rising yen, and that was for only one day, according to the company.
 
Toyota last year suspended production at its auto plants in Alabama, Indiana and Texas for three months, and shut down output for two days in December at all its North American vehicle factories including five in the United States, one in Canada and another in Mexico.
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Re: GM says it may not need more loans [62vetteefp] by kernick
Jan 07, 2009 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 07, 2009 12:25 pm)

In December, GM requested $18 billion in federal loans, saying that was what it needed to make it to 2010.
 
So I'm not quite sure what this means for 2010. They will or won't need another loan?
 
When does GM start making a profit? How do they get to the point where they can make a profit? How long does it take for GM and GMAC to repay the loans, counting the interest?
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Re: GM says it may not need more loans [62vetteefp] by circlew
Jan 07, 2009 (1:12 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 07, 2009 12:25 pm)

Let's say without incentives and the economy worsens in the next quarter, sales WILL fall below SAAR of 900,000 units per month which is December sales which GM did better than most.
 
GM will be back asking for more support (unless the debt they owe somehow goes away and people flock to only GM dealerships to by cars in April...and Red Tag sales are not necessary to support sales).
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Toyota cutting production in Japan [62vetteefp] by kernick
Jan 07, 2009 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 07, 2009 12:27 pm)

Does it make you feel better to post things about Toyota or any other carmaker on this GM website? No matter who else is losing marketshare, or idling plants during these tough economic times, each company should be on their own to see if they make it thru this.
 
You can look at who else is down, but that neither helps nor hurts GM's business, unless the competition fails and GM gets their marketshare.
 
With a $1.2T budget deficit forecast for next year already, before the Obama stimulus plan, the economic future is looking pretty bleak. This continued downturn will mean several of the major auto manufacturers of the world will fail, or all will need to permanently cut their size and costs 30%. The global expansion of auto production has went too far, just at the wrong time, and the financilly weak in the industry will fail.
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Re: Toyota cutting production in Japan [kernick] by circlew
Jan 07, 2009 (1:27 pm)
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Replying to: kernick (Jan 07, 2009 1:13 pm)

The global expansion of auto production has went too far, just at the wrong time, and the financially weak in the industry will fail.

 
That's why their statement is wrong again. I'd love to fire the guys who approved releasing that statement. Unbelievable. We are all very aware that GM will need more support...unless they cut more than expected...NOT.
 
Regards,
OW

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