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#31278 of 32000 Re: Back to the recall thread [imidazol97] by uplanderguy

Jan 31, 2013 (2:29 pm)

Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 31, 2013 11:29 am)
Toyota wishes their recalls were that size!
 
Our local paper's 'auto' section today has an article about a Honda recall of 700K units, but I don't know if that's new or from a week or two ago and just making it into the paper now.

#31279 of 32000 Re: Back to the recall thread [uplanderguy] by imidazol97

Jan 31, 2013 (2:48 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 31, 2013 2:29 pm)
> Honda recall
 
Honda? Recall. Say it's not true.

#31280 of 32000 Re: SIGTARP recalls [imidazol97] by tlong

Jan 31, 2013 (2:49 pm)

Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 31, 2013 2:09 pm)
>What I meant is that the public impression of GM is largely a company for the older demographic.
  
I think that image is perpetuated by some who want to talk only about an older GM in negative way and some by not having had a definite enough advertising break with the Old GM before the administration reformulated it.
  
I think that there is an advertising gap and a perception that the leaders of GM, when they do show up on a program or article, tend to be older than some of the other faces in the news for other companies.

 
Although I don't have the numbers, seems like I've read that the average age of BMW buyers is a lot younger than Caddy buyers. And we don't even need to talk Buick. I also suspect that Honda/Hyundai buyers are younger on average than Chevrolet. Clearly the opinions of those in this forum or the ages of the execs aren't the major reason why GM's buying demographic is older. I don't think it's going to help GM to pass it all off as older execs. I'm not seeing them do enough to revers the age issue, which will be continuingly important to GM's long term success as the population ages.

#31281 of 32000 Re: Back to the recall thread [uplanderguy] by steve_ HOST

Jan 31, 2013 (2:54 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 31, 2013 2:29 pm)
Happened around Jan. 18th for Pilot and Odyssey owners. Airbag issue.

#31283 of 32000 Re: SIGTARP recalls [busiris] by tlong

Jan 31, 2013 (3:28 pm)

Replying to: busiris (Jan 31, 2013 3:02 pm)
Wow busiris, that's exactly what we needed! As expected, Caddy is only out-aged by Lincoln in the luxury space, and Chevy is up there in the mainstream space as well. And of course Buick is the oldest.
 
Those actual data confirm what I was saying about GM and the age demographic.

#31284 of 32000 Re: SIGTARP recalls [tlong] by uplanderguy

Jan 31, 2013 (3:36 pm)

Replying to: tlong (Jan 31, 2013 3:28 pm)
Chevy's is one year older than Toyota's and Honda's, and the same age as Hyundai's, Ford's, and Subaru's. Not exactly 'aha!' stuff.

#31285 of 32000 Re: SIGTARP recalls [uplanderguy] by steve_ HOST

Jan 31, 2013 (3:35 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 31, 2013 3:36 pm)
The average age of Smartcar owners is a bit unexpected. Popular in retirement villages perhaps?

#31286 of 32000 Re: SIGTARP recalls [uplanderguy] by imidazol97

Jan 31, 2013 (3:45 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 31, 2013 3:36 pm)
Buick decreased their average age from the first sample year to the second by 4 years. Perhaps that supports more of tlong's point. I was looking at the image projected by the car companies themselves instead of the buyers' demographic.

#31287 of 32000 Re: SIGTARP recalls [imidazol97] by tlong

Jan 31, 2013 (3:51 pm)

Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 31, 2013 3:45 pm)
Buick decreased their average age from the first sample year to the second by 4 years. Perhaps that supports more of tlong's point. I was looking at the image projected by the car companies themselves instead of the buyers' demographic.
 
Kudos to Buick for bringing their age down so far. Hopefully they can continue that.
 
Chevy may be the same as Hyundai but they are also the same as Toyota, a company known for the older demographic. Honda's is surprisingly similar; I don't think that would have been the case 10 years ago, but their offerings have become more conservative, which is why many people (including me) feel that Honda has lost its way. They've also been working on turning that around.

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