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#3101 of 8270 by m4d_cow Jan 05, 2009 (11:51 am)
And the RX 350 data has been out. "2010 RX 3.5l - est. 290-300hp"    The entry-level 2010 RX 350 is powered by the 3.5-liter V6 engine which produces an output of 275HP and is mated to an electrically controlled, sequential-shift six-speed transmission.   I see, my mistake.
#3102 of 8270 Re: 2010 Equinox- 30mpg [dtownfb] by nippononly Jan 05, 2009 (12:46 pm)
Replying to: dtownfb (Jan 05, 2009 9:48 am) Yes, well soon Toyota will have to fold to market forces, as it is pretty much the last one in this segment with a 4-speed auto, exactly the thing GM used to receive criticism for. Once they stick the 5-speed in, we can expect it to slightly exceed the Equinox and handily exceed the CRV, while matching the Escape for EPA ratings. And the Camry will move up to match the Malibu's EPA ratings this spring when they start sticking the new 2.5L four in.   It's a bad position for Toyota to have let itself get into, being forced by the General to play catch-up on fuel economy.
#3103 of 8270 Re: 20101 SRX [torque_r] by 62vetteefp Jan 05, 2009 (1:43 pm)
Replying to: torque_r (Jan 04, 2009 7:40 pm) I think GM should use it in more models, like the CTS, Lacrosse and Lucrene, and it will definitely be ideal for the Lambda's too.   Completely agree. I wanted the 3.2 turbo instead of the stupid V8 on the current one but investment shot it down.   LaCrosse engines are going to be 3.0L 250 hp and 3.6L 290hp which should be plenty for a mid sized vehicle with the AWD version for now. But hopefully an AWD Super will show up with a turbo!!   The ES currently has a 3.5L 270hp. With the facelift will it get an upgraded engine? Perhaps the 303hp version? The V6 Camry is also 3.5L except 268 hp. Replies to this message: torque_r (Jan 05, 2009 8:53 pm) 62vetteefp (Jan 06, 2009 3:29 am) circlew (Jan 06, 2009 4:00 am) 62vetteefp (Jan 06, 2009 4:33 am) m4d_cow (Jan 06, 2009 6:04 am) m4d_cow (Jan 06, 2009 5:52 am)
#3104 of 8270 more dec data by 62vetteefp Jan 05, 2009 (2:27 pm)
GM's car sales fell 25% to 87,506 while light-truck sales dropped 35% to 132,524   GM light-vehicle sales in 2008 totaled 2.95 million units, down 23% from 2007.   Toyota posted a U.S. December sales drop of 36.7% to 141,949 units from 224,399. Car sales slid 34.8% to 79,259 while truck sales slumped 39% to 62,690.   Toyota U.S. sales in all of 2008 totaled 2.22 million, down from 2.62 million vehicles in 2007. down 16% for the year   Honda reported a 34.7% decline to 86,085 cars and trucks, with its top-selling Accord sedan off by 28.5% to 22,348 units. Overall, truck sales slipped 40% to 35,167 units while car sales fell 30.4% to 50,918. For the year, Honda's sales dropped 8.2% to 1,428,765 cars and trucks.   Nissan Motors handed in a retreat of 30.7% to 62,102 vehicles from 89,555 units in December 2007. Car sales slid 26.8% to 38,507 units while trucks sales declined 36.1% to 23,595 units.   Nissan U.S. sales in 2008 fell 10.9% to 951,350 vehicles from 1.07 million in 2007.   For 2008, Ford's sales fell 21% to 1.98 million vehicles   Chrysler said its monthly sales sank to 89,813 amid a 63% cut in fleet sales. Total sales for the year dropped 30% to 1.45 million vehicles
#3105 of 8270 Re: 20101 SRX [m4d_cow] by circlew Jan 05, 2009 (2:46 pm)
Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 05, 2009 11:30 am) At approximately 12,000 unit sales/year, The SRX will prove low in desirability. There is little following for this vehicle. The competition will easily out-sell the SRX....again.   Regards, OW
#3106 of 8270 Re: 20101 SRX [62vetteefp] by torque_r Jan 05, 2009 (8:53 pm)
Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 05, 2009 1:43 pm) I think to rate how powerful the SRX is compared to the competitors depends on how GM will price it. If the 300-hp SRX is priced similar to the 300-hp Acura, MDX, 275-hp Lexus RX350, or the 303-hp Infiniti FX35, while the 260hp-SRX undercut all those in price, then we have a winner here. Replies to this message: 62vetteefp (Jan 06, 2009 3:29 am) circlew (Jan 06, 2009 4:00 am) 62vetteefp (Jan 06, 2009 4:33 am) m4d_cow (Jan 06, 2009 6:04 am) m4d_cow (Jan 06, 2009 5:52 am)
#3107 of 8270 2008 Sales (Final Figures) by torque_r Jan 06, 2009 (2:50 am)
Here we go guys:   Industry Total: 13,244,018 down 18%   Any automaker whose sales dropped less than 18% has actually gained market share.   1- GM: 2,954,819, down 23% 2- Toyota: 2,217,660, down 15% 3- Ford: 1,980,966, down 21% 4- Chrysler: 1,453,122, down 30% 5- Honda: 1,428,765, down 8% 6- Nissan: 951,350, down 11% 7- Huyndai: 401,742, down 14% 8- Volkswagen: 314,318, down 5% 9- BMW: 303,568, down 10% 10- Kia: 273,397 down 11% 11- Mazda: 263,949, down 11% 12- Daimler: 249,750, down 1.5% 13- Subaru: 187,699 up 0.3% 14- Mitsubishi: 92,257 down 25%   Despite the fact that everyone has suffered horrible drop in sales, they all gained market share, except the big three and Mitsubishi.   Market Share:   Big Three: 6,388,907, 48.2% Market Share. Asian: 5,912,787, 44.6% Market Share. European: 1,036,794, 7.8% Market Share   The big three sold less than 50% for the first time in history, while Asians (Japanese and Koreans) are on their way to outsell the Domestics. Replies to this message: circlew (Jan 06, 2009 3:55 am) circlew (Jan 06, 2009 9:20 am) dtownfb (Jan 06, 2009 10:00 am) circlew (Jan 06, 2009 11:17 am) and 18 more... dave8697 (Jan 06, 2009 8:57 pm) bpizzuti (Jan 07, 2009 3:24 am) gagrice (Jan 07, 2009 7:16 am) plekto (Jan 07, 2009 7:42 am) and 2 more... m4d_cow (Jan 07, 2009 10:10 am) and 7 more...
#3108 of 8270 Re: 20101 SRX [torque_r] by 62vetteefp Jan 06, 2009 (3:29 am)
Replying to: torque_r (Jan 05, 2009 8:53 pm) depends on how GM will price it   Pricing will not be out for awhile but it is rumored to start at $35k or so.
#3109 of 8270 Re: 2008 Sales (Final Figures) [torque_r] by circlew Jan 06, 2009 (3:55 am)
Replying to: torque_r (Jan 06, 2009 2:50 am) Thanks for the data.   One difference for MB:   Daimler shows down 11.2% according to WSJ   Regards, OW
#3110 of 8270 Re: 20101 SRX [torque_r] by circlew Jan 06, 2009 (4:00 am)
Replying to: torque_r (Jan 05, 2009 8:53 pm) Buyers in this class are less concerned with a difference of 10% power rating as the desirability and brand loyalty. The SRX looks better than the last one but since 2004, it doesn't have the image of the category leader. Pricing will be key to grow sales as you have mentioned.   Regards, OW Replies to this message: 62vetteefp (Jan 06, 2009 4:33 am) m4d_cow (Jan 06, 2009 6:04 am)

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