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Re: 20101 SRX [m4d_cow] by 62vetteefp
Jan 05, 2009 (11:41 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 05, 2009 11:30 am)

Not really, you said: "Seems to me that the SRX leads the competition in the HP department. Has the most efficient engine (displacement vs. HP) at both ends of the competition" (post 3081)
 
Wow, I guess I should wordsmith my comments a bit better. Guess I should have wrote "with" instead of ". Has the"
 
So I apologize for mistyping my point. I will try again.
 
Has the most efficient engine (displacement vs. HP) at both ends of the competition.
 
And the RX 350 data has been out. "2010 RX 3.5l - est. 290-300hp"
 
The entry-level 2010 RX 350 is powered by the 3.5-liter V6 engine which produces an output of 275HP and is mated to an electrically controlled, sequential-shift six-speed transmission.
 
I did only list the vehicles that I found that the media compared with the new SRX. I think they did not count the X5 since it starts at almost $50k (with a 260hp powertrain) while the SRX will start around $36K.
 
I think the EX35 3.5L/297hp at $35k would be a closer competitor rather than the FX35 at $43k.
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by m4d_cow
Jan 05, 2009 (11:47 am)
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GM inventories dropped compared with a year ago. In December, only about 872,000 vehicles were in stock, down about 36,000 vehicles (or 4 percent) compared with last year. There were about 397,000 cars and 475,000 trucks (including crossovers) in inventory at the end of December.
  
"We are building more vehicles than ever that provide great value and Americans enjoy owning. That is why, for the year, we are seeing our market share holding steady at just above 22 percent. That's 5 percentage points more and 760,000 vehicles more than our nearest competitor.

 
Of course it makes sense. Have you seen how many incentives, rebates and red-tag events GM pulled this year?
Second part, the numbers are perhaps accurate (perhaps as I cant find any source yet), but there's too much propaganda in the statements IMO.... oh well, it's all too common nowadays.
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by m4d_cow
Jan 05, 2009 (11:51 am)
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And the RX 350 data has been out. "2010 RX 3.5l - est. 290-300hp"
  
The entry-level 2010 RX 350 is powered by the 3.5-liter V6 engine which produces an output of 275HP and is mated to an electrically controlled, sequential-shift six-speed transmission.

 
I see, my mistake.
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Re: 2010 Equinox- 30mpg [dtownfb] by nippononly
Jan 05, 2009 (12:46 pm)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Jan 05, 2009 9:48 am)

Yes, well soon Toyota will have to fold to market forces, as it is pretty much the last one in this segment with a 4-speed auto, exactly the thing GM used to receive criticism for. Once they stick the 5-speed in, we can expect it to slightly exceed the Equinox and handily exceed the CRV, while matching the Escape for EPA ratings. And the Camry will move up to match the Malibu's EPA ratings this spring when they start sticking the new 2.5L four in.
 
It's a bad position for Toyota to have let itself get into, being forced by the General to play catch-up on fuel economy.
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Re: 20101 SRX [torque_r] by 62vetteefp
Jan 05, 2009 (1:43 pm)
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Replying to: torque_r (Jan 04, 2009 7:40 pm)

I think GM should use it in more models, like the CTS, Lacrosse and Lucrene, and it will definitely be ideal for the Lambda's too.
 
Completely agree. I wanted the 3.2 turbo instead of the stupid V8 on the current one but investment shot it down.
 
LaCrosse engines are going to be 3.0L 250 hp and 3.6L 290hp which should be plenty for a mid sized vehicle with the AWD version for now. But hopefully an AWD Super will show up with a turbo!!
 
The ES currently has a 3.5L 270hp. With the facelift will it get an upgraded engine? Perhaps the 303hp version? The V6 Camry is also 3.5L except 268 hp.
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more dec data by 62vetteefp
Jan 05, 2009 (2:27 pm)
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GM's car sales fell 25% to 87,506 while light-truck sales dropped 35% to 132,524
 
GM light-vehicle sales in 2008 totaled 2.95 million units, down 23% from 2007.
 
Toyota posted a U.S. December sales drop of 36.7% to 141,949 units from 224,399. Car sales slid 34.8% to 79,259 while truck sales slumped 39% to 62,690.
 
Toyota U.S. sales in all of 2008 totaled 2.22 million, down from 2.62 million vehicles in 2007. down 16% for the year
 
Honda reported a 34.7% decline to 86,085 cars and trucks, with its top-selling Accord sedan off by 28.5% to 22,348 units. Overall, truck sales slipped 40% to 35,167 units while car sales fell 30.4% to 50,918. For the year, Honda's sales dropped 8.2% to 1,428,765 cars and trucks.
 
Nissan Motors handed in a retreat of 30.7% to 62,102 vehicles from 89,555 units in December 2007. Car sales slid 26.8% to 38,507 units while trucks sales declined 36.1% to 23,595 units.
 
Nissan U.S. sales in 2008 fell 10.9% to 951,350 vehicles from 1.07 million in 2007.
 
For 2008, Ford's sales fell 21% to 1.98 million vehicles
 
Chrysler said its monthly sales sank to 89,813 amid a 63% cut in fleet sales. Total sales for the year dropped 30% to 1.45 million vehicles
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Re: 20101 SRX [m4d_cow] by circlew
Jan 05, 2009 (2:46 pm)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 05, 2009 11:30 am)

At approximately 12,000 unit sales/year, The SRX will prove low in desirability. There is little following for this vehicle. The competition will easily out-sell the SRX....again.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: 20101 SRX [62vetteefp] by torque_r
Jan 05, 2009 (8:53 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 05, 2009 1:43 pm)

I think to rate how powerful the SRX is compared to the competitors depends on how GM will price it. If the 300-hp SRX is priced similar to the 300-hp Acura, MDX, 275-hp Lexus RX350, or the 303-hp Infiniti FX35, while the 260hp-SRX undercut all those in price, then we have a winner here.
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2008 Sales (Final Figures) by torque_r
Jan 06, 2009 (2:50 am)
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Here we go guys:
 
Industry Total: 13,244,018 down 18%
 
Any automaker whose sales dropped less than 18% has actually gained market share.
 
1- GM: 2,954,819, down 23%
2- Toyota: 2,217,660, down 15%
3- Ford: 1,980,966, down 21%
4- Chrysler: 1,453,122, down 30%
5- Honda: 1,428,765, down 8%
6- Nissan: 951,350, down 11%
7- Huyndai: 401,742, down 14%
8- Volkswagen: 314,318, down 5%
9- BMW: 303,568, down 10%
10- Kia: 273,397 down 11%
11- Mazda: 263,949, down 11%
12- Daimler: 249,750, down 1.5%
13- Subaru: 187,699 up 0.3%
14- Mitsubishi: 92,257 down 25%
 
Despite the fact that everyone has suffered horrible drop in sales, they all gained market share, except the big three and Mitsubishi.
 
Market Share:
 
Big Three: 6,388,907, 48.2% Market Share.
Asian: 5,912,787, 44.6% Market Share.
European: 1,036,794, 7.8% Market Share
 
The big three sold less than 50% for the first time in history, while Asians (Japanese and Koreans) are on their way to outsell the Domestics.
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Re: 20101 SRX [torque_r] by 62vetteefp
Jan 06, 2009 (3:29 am)
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Replying to: torque_r (Jan 05, 2009 8:53 pm)

depends on how GM will price it
 
Pricing will not be out for awhile but it is rumored to start at $35k or so.

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