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#3097 of 8271
Dec/08 sales release by 62vetteefp
Jan 05, 2009 (11:23 am)
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# December deliveries up 30 percent compared with October and up 43 percent compared with November
# Market share in December expected around 24 percent, up about 4 ppts compared with November, reflecting renewed APR rate support through GMAC
# Second half 2008 share up nearly 2 ppts compared with first half
# 2008 market share position anticipated to hold steady at just above 22 percent

 
down 31 percent compared with a year ago.
 
Chevrolet Malibu continued its solid performance with total sales up 43 percent compared with last December. For 2008, Malibu sales of more than 178,000 vehicles were up 39 percent, making it the highest percentage gainer in the top 20 vehicles sold in America with a volume increase compared with 2007.
 
GM inventories dropped compared with a year ago. In December, only about 872,000 vehicles were in stock, down about 36,000 vehicles (or 4 percent) compared with last year. There were about 397,000 cars and 475,000 trucks (including crossovers) in inventory at the end of December.
 
"We are building more vehicles than ever that provide great value and Americans enjoy owning. That is why, for the year, we are seeing our market share holding steady at just above 22 percent. That's 5 percentage points more and 760,000 vehicles more than our nearest competitor.
 
Ford Motor Co. posted a 32% drop in U.S. light-vehicle sales for December while Toyota Motor Co. reported a 37% fall and Honda Motor Co. had a 35% decline, closing out the auto industry's worst year in more than 15 years.
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Re: 20101 SRX [62vetteefp] by m4d_cow
Jan 05, 2009 (11:30 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 05, 2009 9:47 am)

Excuse me but you're the one missing the point, youre comparing future SRX with current competition. To be fair you need to compare it with future competition models.
 
2010 SRX 3.0l - 300hp
2010 X5 3.0l turbo - est. 310hp
2010 RX 3.5l - est. 290-300hp
2009(current) FX 3.5l - 303hp
2009(current) Touareg 3.6l - 280hp
 
Those are SRX's toughest competitors (plus MB ML350), and it seems like only T-reg trails the HP game.
 
Plus, I can't imagine 300hp running on front drive (expect crazy torque steer), unless the 3.0 is restricted to AWD only.
 
Has the most efficient engine (displacement vs. HP) at both ends of the competition.
  
What I said is above.

 
Not really, you said: "Seems to me that the SRX leads the competition in the HP department. Has the most efficient engine (displacement vs. HP) at both ends of the competition" (post 3081)
 
Btw, when they all hit showrooms the BMW will have the best balance, fuel economy aside.
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Re: 20101 SRX [m4d_cow] by 62vetteefp
Jan 05, 2009 (11:41 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 05, 2009 11:30 am)

Not really, you said: "Seems to me that the SRX leads the competition in the HP department. Has the most efficient engine (displacement vs. HP) at both ends of the competition" (post 3081)
 
Wow, I guess I should wordsmith my comments a bit better. Guess I should have wrote "with" instead of ". Has the"
 
So I apologize for mistyping my point. I will try again.
 
Has the most efficient engine (displacement vs. HP) at both ends of the competition.
 
And the RX 350 data has been out. "2010 RX 3.5l - est. 290-300hp"
 
The entry-level 2010 RX 350 is powered by the 3.5-liter V6 engine which produces an output of 275HP and is mated to an electrically controlled, sequential-shift six-speed transmission.
 
I did only list the vehicles that I found that the media compared with the new SRX. I think they did not count the X5 since it starts at almost $50k (with a 260hp powertrain) while the SRX will start around $36K.
 
I think the EX35 3.5L/297hp at $35k would be a closer competitor rather than the FX35 at $43k.
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by m4d_cow
Jan 05, 2009 (11:47 am)
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GM inventories dropped compared with a year ago. In December, only about 872,000 vehicles were in stock, down about 36,000 vehicles (or 4 percent) compared with last year. There were about 397,000 cars and 475,000 trucks (including crossovers) in inventory at the end of December.
  
"We are building more vehicles than ever that provide great value and Americans enjoy owning. That is why, for the year, we are seeing our market share holding steady at just above 22 percent. That's 5 percentage points more and 760,000 vehicles more than our nearest competitor.

 
Of course it makes sense. Have you seen how many incentives, rebates and red-tag events GM pulled this year?
Second part, the numbers are perhaps accurate (perhaps as I cant find any source yet), but there's too much propaganda in the statements IMO.... oh well, it's all too common nowadays.
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by m4d_cow
Jan 05, 2009 (11:51 am)
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And the RX 350 data has been out. "2010 RX 3.5l - est. 290-300hp"
  
The entry-level 2010 RX 350 is powered by the 3.5-liter V6 engine which produces an output of 275HP and is mated to an electrically controlled, sequential-shift six-speed transmission.

 
I see, my mistake.
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Re: 2010 Equinox- 30mpg [dtownfb] by nippononly
Jan 05, 2009 (12:46 pm)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Jan 05, 2009 9:48 am)

Yes, well soon Toyota will have to fold to market forces, as it is pretty much the last one in this segment with a 4-speed auto, exactly the thing GM used to receive criticism for. Once they stick the 5-speed in, we can expect it to slightly exceed the Equinox and handily exceed the CRV, while matching the Escape for EPA ratings. And the Camry will move up to match the Malibu's EPA ratings this spring when they start sticking the new 2.5L four in.
 
It's a bad position for Toyota to have let itself get into, being forced by the General to play catch-up on fuel economy.
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Re: 20101 SRX [torque_r] by 62vetteefp
Jan 05, 2009 (1:43 pm)
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Replying to: torque_r (Jan 04, 2009 7:40 pm)

I think GM should use it in more models, like the CTS, Lacrosse and Lucrene, and it will definitely be ideal for the Lambda's too.
 
Completely agree. I wanted the 3.2 turbo instead of the stupid V8 on the current one but investment shot it down.
 
LaCrosse engines are going to be 3.0L 250 hp and 3.6L 290hp which should be plenty for a mid sized vehicle with the AWD version for now. But hopefully an AWD Super will show up with a turbo!!
 
The ES currently has a 3.5L 270hp. With the facelift will it get an upgraded engine? Perhaps the 303hp version? The V6 Camry is also 3.5L except 268 hp.
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more dec data by 62vetteefp
Jan 05, 2009 (2:27 pm)
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GM's car sales fell 25% to 87,506 while light-truck sales dropped 35% to 132,524
 
GM light-vehicle sales in 2008 totaled 2.95 million units, down 23% from 2007.
 
Toyota posted a U.S. December sales drop of 36.7% to 141,949 units from 224,399. Car sales slid 34.8% to 79,259 while truck sales slumped 39% to 62,690.
 
Toyota U.S. sales in all of 2008 totaled 2.22 million, down from 2.62 million vehicles in 2007. down 16% for the year
 
Honda reported a 34.7% decline to 86,085 cars and trucks, with its top-selling Accord sedan off by 28.5% to 22,348 units. Overall, truck sales slipped 40% to 35,167 units while car sales fell 30.4% to 50,918. For the year, Honda's sales dropped 8.2% to 1,428,765 cars and trucks.
 
Nissan Motors handed in a retreat of 30.7% to 62,102 vehicles from 89,555 units in December 2007. Car sales slid 26.8% to 38,507 units while trucks sales declined 36.1% to 23,595 units.
 
Nissan U.S. sales in 2008 fell 10.9% to 951,350 vehicles from 1.07 million in 2007.
 
For 2008, Ford's sales fell 21% to 1.98 million vehicles
 
Chrysler said its monthly sales sank to 89,813 amid a 63% cut in fleet sales. Total sales for the year dropped 30% to 1.45 million vehicles
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Re: 20101 SRX [m4d_cow] by circlew
Jan 05, 2009 (2:46 pm)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 05, 2009 11:30 am)

At approximately 12,000 unit sales/year, The SRX will prove low in desirability. There is little following for this vehicle. The competition will easily out-sell the SRX....again.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: 20101 SRX [62vetteefp] by torque_r
Jan 05, 2009 (8:53 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 05, 2009 1:43 pm)

I think to rate how powerful the SRX is compared to the competitors depends on how GM will price it. If the 300-hp SRX is priced similar to the 300-hp Acura, MDX, 275-hp Lexus RX350, or the 303-hp Infiniti FX35, while the 260hp-SRX undercut all those in price, then we have a winner here.

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