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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 05, 2009 9:22 am) SRX..3.0L....300 RX....3.5L.....270 MDX.3.7L.....300 X3....3.0L.....260 I still agree the 3.0 doesn't trail competitions', but calling it a lead in the hp game is so off. Has the most efficient engine (displacement vs. HP) at both ends of the competition. What I said is above. I do not see how it is "so off". 2.8L/260 hp vs a 3.0L/260hp at the lower end and 3.0L/300hp vs. 3.7L/300hp at the top end. As a side point how much power does a mid size CUV need in this new world order of greenness? It would be super easy to drop in a 3.2L turbo and get well over 300hp. Heck our huge Traverse with 281 hp goes pretty darn good.
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 05, 2009 8:56 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 05, 2009 9:22 am) I also noticed that the Future GM vehicles are being compared to the Current competition models. If an SRX and the BMW X3 are within 10% cost of each other comparably equipped, the BMW is my choice. Why? I know BMW will be in business in 2011 and thus I'll have a warranty, they have a nice European Delivery discount and holiday, and they have 4 years total maintenance including wear-items. |
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 05, 2009 9:37 am) Wrong, they are different. Also SRX is on a Theta premium platform. What the hell that means I do not know! Will have to wait til Sunday. |
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# December deliveries up 30 percent compared with October and up 43 percent compared with November # Market share in December expected around 24 percent, up about 4 ppts compared with November, reflecting renewed APR rate support through GMAC # Second half 2008 share up nearly 2 ppts compared with first half # 2008 market share position anticipated to hold steady at just above 22 percent down 31 percent compared with a year ago. Chevrolet Malibu continued its solid performance with total sales up 43 percent compared with last December. For 2008, Malibu sales of more than 178,000 vehicles were up 39 percent, making it the highest percentage gainer in the top 20 vehicles sold in America with a volume increase compared with 2007. GM inventories dropped compared with a year ago. In December, only about 872,000 vehicles were in stock, down about 36,000 vehicles (or 4 percent) compared with last year. There were about 397,000 cars and 475,000 trucks (including crossovers) in inventory at the end of December. "We are building more vehicles than ever that provide great value and Americans enjoy owning. That is why, for the year, we are seeing our market share holding steady at just above 22 percent. That's 5 percentage points more and 760,000 vehicles more than our nearest competitor. Ford Motor Co. posted a 32% drop in U.S. light-vehicle sales for December while Toyota Motor Co. reported a 37% fall and Honda Motor Co. had a 35% decline, closing out the auto industry's worst year in more than 15 years. |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 05, 2009 9:47 am) 2010 SRX 3.0l - 300hp 2010 X5 3.0l turbo - est. 310hp 2010 RX 3.5l - est. 290-300hp 2009(current) FX 3.5l - 303hp 2009(current) Touareg 3.6l - 280hp Those are SRX's toughest competitors (plus MB ML350), and it seems like only T-reg trails the HP game. Plus, I can't imagine 300hp running on front drive (expect crazy torque steer), unless the 3.0 is restricted to AWD only. Has the most efficient engine (displacement vs. HP) at both ends of the competition. What I said is above. Not really, you said: "Seems to me that the SRX leads the competition in the HP department. Has the most efficient engine (displacement vs. HP) at both ends of the competition" (post 3081) Btw, when they all hit showrooms the BMW will have the best balance, fuel economy aside.
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 05, 2009 11:30 am) Wow, I guess I should wordsmith my comments a bit better. Guess I should have wrote "with" instead of ". Has the" So I apologize for mistyping my point. I will try again. Has the most efficient engine (displacement vs. HP) at both ends of the competition. And the RX 350 data has been out. "2010 RX 3.5l - est. 290-300hp" The entry-level 2010 RX 350 is powered by the 3.5-liter V6 engine which produces an output of 275HP and is mated to an electrically controlled, sequential-shift six-speed transmission. I did only list the vehicles that I found that the media compared with the new SRX. I think they did not count the X5 since it starts at almost $50k (with a 260hp powertrain) while the SRX will start around $36K. I think the EX35 3.5L/297hp at $35k would be a closer competitor rather than the FX35 at $43k.
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GM inventories dropped compared with a year ago. In December, only about 872,000 vehicles were in stock, down about 36,000 vehicles (or 4 percent) compared with last year. There were about 397,000 cars and 475,000 trucks (including crossovers) in inventory at the end of December. "We are building more vehicles than ever that provide great value and Americans enjoy owning. That is why, for the year, we are seeing our market share holding steady at just above 22 percent. That's 5 percentage points more and 760,000 vehicles more than our nearest competitor. Of course it makes sense. Have you seen how many incentives, rebates and red-tag events GM pulled this year? Second part, the numbers are perhaps accurate (perhaps as I cant find any source yet), but there's too much propaganda in the statements IMO.... oh well, it's all too common nowadays.
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And the RX 350 data has been out. "2010 RX 3.5l - est. 290-300hp" The entry-level 2010 RX 350 is powered by the 3.5-liter V6 engine which produces an output of 275HP and is mated to an electrically controlled, sequential-shift six-speed transmission. I see, my mistake. |
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Replying to: dtownfb (Jan 05, 2009 9:48 am) It's a bad position for Toyota to have let itself get into, being forced by the General to play catch-up on fuel economy. |
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