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#30773 of 32000 Re: Weird (to me) Honda radio ad [anythngbutgm] by uplanderguy

Jan 16, 2013 (2:28 pm)

Replying to: anythngbutgm (Jan 16, 2013 2:18 pm)
Again, they didn't omit it. It was available in 2011 from the factory.
 
And from the order guide in the Yahoo link, it apparently was available in the Eco that year as well.

#30774 of 32000 Question about Corvair influence by xrunner2

Jan 16, 2013 (3:04 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 16, 2013 6:14 am)
If it wasn't for the Corvair, there very well could have been no Mustang, Barracuda, or Camaro/Firebird. It was the Corvair that uncovered the market for an inexpensive domestic compact, and thus served as some inspiration for the Mustang.
 
Wonder about that. Could it be that Euopean sports cars were the inspiration for the Mustang?

#30775 of 32000 Re: Weird (to me) Honda radio ad [uplanderguy] by tlong

Jan 16, 2013 (3:55 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 16, 2013 9:19 am)
Thirteen cars and 32 years later, I still don't regret never buying one.
 
That is a lot of cars for 32 years.

#30776 of 32000 Re: Weird (to me) Honda radio ad [tlong] by tlong

Jan 16, 2013 (4:04 pm)

Replying to: tlong (Jan 16, 2013 3:55 pm)
I've had 5 cars (personal daily drivers, not counting kids or wife's car) in 40 years.
 
I guess that's why I'm concerned about long term reliability.
 
For someone who trades in every 3 years or so, it doesn't really matter much.

#30777 of 32000 Re: Weird (to me) Honda radio ad [uplanderguy] by imidazol97

Jan 16, 2013 (4:40 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 16, 2013 1:59 pm)
>Your dealer was a putz
 
If that was what the dealer actually said. Unbelievable about the stories some will perpetuate about GM. Even the ECO has cruise control standard.
 
I did notice that Cruze does what toyota does on the Corolla and probably the Camry, Cruise is an option on the lowest model for price competitiveness.
 
I also notice the Corolla is only rated at 34 highway. The Cruze is 36 and the Malibu is 33. Corolla or Malibu? Malibu is much better optioned. Same for the Cruze for me.

#30778 of 32000 Re: Weird (to me) Honda radio ad [tlong] by uplanderguy

Jan 16, 2013 (7:04 pm)

Replying to: tlong (Jan 16, 2013 3:55 pm)
That's buying for me and my wife.
 
I've had three with over 100K miles (108K, 112K, and 129.6K), one with 94K, one with 93K, one with 75K, and the others with less. Way back when, as a bachelor, I traded every three years as I wanted to. I have 62K and 23K on our two Chevys now.
 
My first new car, an '81 Monte Carlo, I had for 18 mos. and 35K miles as it was stolen and not recovered. I replaced it with an '82 Monte Carlo that was the dealership owner's demo. It was a V6 which I did not like as well as my previous V8.
 
In 2002, I bought two new Chevys...one for my wife in January, and one for me in April.

#30779 of 32000 Re: Weird (to me) Honda radio ad [imidazol97] by tlong

Jan 16, 2013 (7:01 pm)

Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 16, 2013 4:40 pm)
I also notice the Corolla is only rated at 34 highway. The Cruze is 36 and the Malibu is 33. Corolla or Malibu? Malibu is much better optioned. Same for the Cruze for me.
 
The Corolla is definitely not very competitive. They're riding on their company reputation and I'm sure it is very reliable. Just not very appealing at all.

#30780 of 32000 Re: Weird (to me) Honda radio ad [uplanderguy] by tlong

Jan 16, 2013 (7:03 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 16, 2013 7:04 pm)
That's buying for me and my wife.
 
Ok, not quite so many, then!
 
I guess my biggest gap was buying my first car used and waiting ten years for another. Then keeping the next one for another 9 years.
 
I've just passed 8 years on my current ride. Thinking about a change in the next couple of years or so.

#30781 of 32000 Re: Question about Corvair influence [xrunner2] by uplanderguy

Jan 17, 2013 (4:35 am)

Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 16, 2013 3:04 pm)
Wonder about that. Could it be that Euopean sports cars were the inspiration for the Mustang?
 
Not really, when you realize how few European sports cars were being sold in this country at that time, and how the Mustang was priced low--way low--compared to them.
 
I think andre left the term 'sporty' out of his sentence.
 
The Corvair Monza was the first domestic small car to have (for the time) luxurious and sporty appointments; e.g., bucket seats and deluxe vinyl trim inside. It spawned the Falcon Futura and Lark Daytona and Valiant Signet and eventually the Mustang, which in turn spawned the Camaro and Firebird.

#30782 of 32000 Re: Question about Corvair influence [uplanderguy] by robr2

Jan 17, 2013 (5:52 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 17, 2013 4:35 am)
Not really, when you realize how few European sports cars were being sold in this country at that time, and how the Mustang was priced low--way low--compared to them.
 
IIRC, Iacocca was influenced by the 2 seat European cars brought back by WW II vets but he was more interested in their children. Those baby boomers were now reaching an age (18+) where they would be buying their first new cars and had grown up with Dad's import.

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