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#30534 of 32000 Re: Malibu beats Altima, Passat, Optima, Subaru [fezo] by andre1969

Jan 13, 2013 (11:01 am)

Replying to: fezo (Jan 13, 2013 10:53 am)
The '56 Imperial also had a bigger Hemi (280 hp 354 CID versus 250 hp331), and an even longer wheelbase (133" versus 130"). So, it was a pretty impressive piece of machinery. Oh, and 12 volt electrics, versus 6 volt.
 
But, for '56, the Lincoln was redone as well, and finally looked like a luxury car, IMO. Some of the styling was awkward though, like the area around the C-pillar on the sedan.
 
And, for '56, I think Caddy improved on its already good looks. Incidentally, the '56 Caddy used a 285 hp 365, while the Lincoln used a 285 hp 368. I'd guess that the Imperial was the slowest of the three. Smaller displacement engine, coupled with a 2-speed automatic, whereas the Caddy used a 4-speed, and Lincoln had a 3-speed, I think.
 
But still, a '56 Imperial is a nice car, and I agree, the styling is an improvement over the '55. I think Mopar styling in general improved in '56, versus '55.

#30535 of 32000 Re: Redesigned 2013 Accord is tops, beats Malibu [uplanderguy] by tlong

Jan 13, 2013 (12:25 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 13, 2013 4:56 am)
Those are great stories, but anecdotal. As brands, Honda has consistently surpassed GM. Doesn't mean there aren't problems with both on occasions, or that cherry-picking the right two vehicles might tip the scales the other way for that exact pairing.

#30536 of 32000 Re: Redesigned 2013 Accord is tops, beats Malibu [andre1969] by busiris

Jan 13, 2013 (2:43 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 13, 2013 9:53 am)
The minivan transmission was the 4 speed.
 
The Concorde was the 3.2 liter LXI model. I sold in in 2007 with about 60k miles.
 
I really like the car in that it rode smoothly on the highway and had comfortable seats, but I knew the engine was headed south eventually.

#30537 of 32000 Re: Redesigned 2013 Accord is tops, beats Malibu [tlong] by uplanderguy

Jan 13, 2013 (4:19 pm)

Replying to: tlong (Jan 13, 2013 12:25 pm)
I care more about what happens to me and people close to me than far-away info in a magazine. I think most people do.

#30538 of 32000 Re: Redesigned 2013 Accord is tops, beats Malibu [uplanderguy] by circlew

Jan 13, 2013 (5:52 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 13, 2013 4:19 pm)
I care more about what happens to me and people close to me than far-away info in a magazine. I think most people do.
 
That's why most people migrated away from the 'big 3' to Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, Subaru, Mazda, Kia.
 
They care about what happens to them and people closest to them than info in a magazine. They care about reality instead of 'Buy American' hype. The reality is the reality, at the end of the day, like it or not.
 
Regards,
OW

#30539 of 32000 Re: Redesigned 2013 Accord is tops, beats Malibu [uplanderguy] by tlong

Jan 13, 2013 (7:20 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 13, 2013 4:19 pm)
I care more about what happens to me and people close to me than far-away info in a magazine. I think most people do.
 
I agree that most people do. That says something, given the continuing loss of market share at GM. Doesn't that mean an awful lot of previous GM owners have abandoned the company? I guess what happened to them must have caused them to switch.

#30540 of 32000 Re: Redesigned 2013 Accord is tops, beats Malibu [circlew] by tlong

Jan 13, 2013 (7:22 pm)

Replying to: circlew (Jan 13, 2013 5:52 pm)
Circle, I posted my response to that post before reading your similar answer. I guess you, I, and uplander are agreeing!

#30541 of 32000 2013 Accord beats Malibu, and both beat VW, Subie, Nissan, and Kia by uplanderguy

Jan 14, 2013 (3:22 am)

Replying to: tlong (Jan 13, 2013 7:22 pm)
Still no comment from you guys about CR saying the Malibu beats the Altima, Optima, Subaru, Passat? Still no comment about CR saying the Sonata Turbo has much-worse-than-average reliability? Come on, this stuff can't be anecdotal!
 
It's you guys that tell me I need to pay attention to mags like CR.
 
tlong, I changed the title back since you are so big on leaving out 4/5 of the story in your headline.
 
Obviously there's truth in the market share decline, but at least some of it has to be like this too:
 
For years there are four restaurants in town. Over a few years, there are six or seven more come into town. The young writers at the 'Food' department of the local paper rave about the new places. Is it logical to assume that people will shift from the same four that have been there for decades, over to the new guys? I think logic says it is inevitable.
 
But there I go, using that "logic" word here.

#30542 of 32000 Re: 2013 Accord beats Malibu, and both beat VW, Subie, Nissan, and Kia [uplanderguy] by uplanderguy

Jan 14, 2013 (3:26 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 14, 2013 3:22 am)
Just wondering, is anybody posting on the Subaru, VW, Kia, and Nissan sites about the Malibu outscoring them all in the Feb. CR, or is that a uniquely circlew/tlong event only here?
 
I have a hunch it is, although I haven't looked.
 
Personally, I'm not a fan of p****** in somebody's Wheaties, so I refuse to do that there.

#30543 of 32000 New GM product...the '14 Corvette by uplanderguy

Jan 14, 2013 (3:27 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 14, 2013 3:26 am)
The quarter window completely surprised me, although I'm not a fan of the vents outside the taillights. The taillights should be round IMHO. Other than that, I like what I'm seeing and also what I'm hearing.
 
Way to go, USA!
 
(Geez, that's an unpopular thing to say, shame on me.)

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