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#30516 of 32000 Government Motors?....Not Really by circlew

Jan 12, 2013 (6:27 pm)

How patriotic of the U.S. Gov't!
 
Imports led the majority of the government’s green car purchases last year, with 54 percent of the nearly 1,800 green vehicles purchased by the federal government coming from Hyundai, Toyota, Mitsubishi and Honda. The federal government’s most-purchased hybrid wasn’t a Big Three product either. Instead, it was the Hyundai Sonata Hybrid.
 
Hyundai Sonata Hybrid Is The Government’s Green Car Of Choice
 
Must be that superior Warranty!

#30517 of 32000 Re: Redesigned 2013 Accord is tops, beats Malibu [imidazol97] by andres3

Jan 12, 2013 (7:36 pm)

Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 12, 2013 9:55 am)
Who wants to be an early adopter from a company with transmission problems in their history?
 
You mean like Chrysler and their use of the ancient and never good 3-speed automatic that they continued to use into the 21st Century.
 
Or how about Ford and their terribly received dual clutch efforts.
 
I've heard of GM transmission history problems too.

#30518 of 32000 Re: Malibu beats Altima, Passat, Optima, Subaru [ateixeira] by fintail

Jan 12, 2013 (7:37 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 12, 2013 4:36 pm)
Doing well wasn't the context though, it was questionable styling. Sonata sells well too, but design wise, it is a mess.

#30519 of 32000 Re: Hyundai Sonata sales growth greatly outperforms Malibu [uplanderguy] by andres3

Jan 12, 2013 (7:42 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 12, 2013 10:44 am)
Who wants to be an early adopter from a company with transmission problems in their history?
 
I guarantee one reason tossed about in GM boardrooms is that with the lack of visibility on the long warranty, less people will "remember" to bring their cars back for warranty service after 50,000 miles. Less claims, less costs.

#30520 of 32000 Re: OnStar [lemko] by andres3

Jan 12, 2013 (7:50 pm)

Replying to: lemko (Jan 12, 2013 2:20 pm)
Really? They'd break a window and steal your Garmin for what might get $40 on the used black market?
 
Where are the police? Too busy getting so-called "speeders?"

#30521 of 32000 Re: OnStar [andres3] by lemko

Jan 12, 2013 (9:08 pm)

Replying to: andres3 (Jan 12, 2013 7:50 pm)
Hey, it's $40 closer to the drug high they're seeking.
 
Heck, you call 911 around here, you'll be lucky if they show up in half an hour.

#30522 of 32000 Re: Redesigned 2013 Accord is tops, beats Malibu [imidazol97] by tlong

Jan 12, 2013 (10:20 pm)

Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 12, 2013 9:55 am)
As for here, I'd consider their long-lived transmission problems, the VCM problem with oil usage currently, the VCM problem with engagement/disengagement, road noise, road vibration, the brake wear problems (have they cured those yet?), and many others that the fanboys tend to overlook for the perfect vehicles.
 
Nobody denies Honda has had some problems. Not perfect, as you would say.
 
But do you *really* think GM's cars have been more reliable than Honda? Even after 100K miles?
 
One either knows that's not true, or there's a reality issue going on.

#30523 of 32000 Re: Malibu beats Altima, Passat, Optima, Subaru [fintail] by tlong

Jan 12, 2013 (10:25 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Jan 12, 2013 7:37 pm)
Doing well wasn't the context though, it was questionable styling. Sonata sells well too, but design wise, it is a mess.
 
At least it's a hot mess, rather than a cold mess like some others. I see analogies to *ahem* other situations but that's not the subject of this board.

#30524 of 32000 Re: OnStar [lemko] by tlong

Jan 12, 2013 (10:26 pm)

Replying to: lemko (Jan 12, 2013 9:08 pm)
Hey, it's $40 closer to the drug high they're seeking.
 
Just think, if we legalized the drugs, they would be so cheap that you could actually keep your Garmin, and they would have a bigger chance of OD'ing and simplifying the gene pool.

#30525 of 32000 Re: Government Motors?....Not Really [circlew] by uplanderguy

Jan 13, 2013 (4:42 am)

Replying to: circlew (Jan 12, 2013 6:27 pm)
They'll need that warranty--the Hyundai Sonata Hybrid has a much-worse-than-average repair record according to the Feb. CR and cannot be recommended.

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