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#30447 of 32000 Re: OnStar [busiris] by uplanderguy

Jan 11, 2013 (9:32 am)

Replying to: busiris (Jan 11, 2013 9:19 am)
I wonder what it costs.
 
I believe it is now standard equipment on every GM, although not certain of that.
 
I doubt many people who wish they had it, like the lady from my town who was in the crash, would pay to have it added to their car, but wish their car had it when they bought it...obviously.

#30448 of 32000 Re: OnStar [imidazol97] by uplanderguy

Jan 11, 2013 (9:39 am)

Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 11, 2013 9:20 am)
And you do.
 
I agree. A refreshing change of pace on this board.
 
You avoid pretty ridiculous, 'on the fringe' postings, like "Sure there's Chevys made in Mexico...like the Captiva (which I couldn't buy if I walked into my local Chevy dealer), and 'OnStar can be added to an earlier vehicle' (yes, but do you know anybody who has actually done that? It's a good built-in feature, I think a lot of owners would concur).

#30449 of 32000 Re: OnStar [uplanderguy] by Stever@Edmunds HOST

Jan 11, 2013 (9:46 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 11, 2013 9:32 am)
With install and everything, the first year can approach $700. Kind of pricey.
 
Mostly you'll have to pay the subscription. $199 annually for the basic one that dials 911 in event of a crash, $299 if you want the turn by turn navigation.
 
This PC Mag review is a little older now and I think the cost and install prices are less.
 
Be really good if you have a new driver in the family and have stuck them in an older (non-GM) car.

#30450 of 32000 Re: OnStar [steve_] by bpizzuti

Jan 11, 2013 (9:49 am)

Replying to: Stever@Edmunds (Jan 11, 2013 9:46 am)
Actually, I figure it might be a good investment for older folks. A lot cheaper than buying a new car just to get OnStar.

#30451 of 32000 Re: OnStar [steve_] by dieselone

Jan 11, 2013 (10:05 am)

Replying to: Stever@Edmunds (Jan 11, 2013 9:46 am)
With install and everything, the first year can approach $700. Kind of pricey.
 
True, but I'd gladly pay $700 to avoid driving something I don't want or like.
 
Regarding adding Onstar. Best Buy used to have a big display promoting adding Onstar to any vehicle. I haven't noticed the display in a while. I doubt there are many takers.

#30452 of 32000 Re: OnStar [bpizzuti] by Stever@Edmunds HOST

Jan 11, 2013 (10:06 am)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 11, 2013 9:49 am)
Yeah, not having to worry about calling 911 when you plow into a deer and hit the ditch would be a nice feature.

#30453 of 32000 Re: OnStar [steve_] by ateixeira

Jan 11, 2013 (10:12 am)

Replying to: Stever@Edmunds (Jan 11, 2013 10:06 am)
Yeah, but you have to pay a monthly fee for something that you can only use while you're driving, which is a small percent of your time. Maybe 1 out of the 24 hours in a day.
 
How 'bout an alert bracelet linked up to a smart phone, so you have 24/7 protection?
 
A lot of people do not renew their subscriptions once they expire.
 
Of course others have copied the idea, so kudos to GM for thinking of it first. It's just not for me, but I can see why some would want it.

#30454 of 32000 Re: Malibu beats Altima, Passat, Optima, Subaru [andre1969] by tlong

Jan 11, 2013 (10:34 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 11, 2013 6:44 am)
I agree with Uplander, that that test wasn't totally fair using the Malibu Eco. However, I don't fault C&D, as that's all that was out at the time.
 
I do have to wonder what the point is of the Malibu ECO with all the added complexity, yet identical mileage to non-hybrid models from its competitors.
 
This is the ongoing stench of GM behavior where they seem to put stuff out there and use names to try and act like they're accomplishing something that they really aren't. A hybrid called an "ECO" that matches non-hybrid mileage! Now there's a brilliant idea!
 
Why couldn't they just put out vehicles that actually do ok for mileage. They are the world's largest auto manufacturer, why can't they actually put something out that is innovative?
 
The Volt fits that description, but is an expensive niche vehicle. GM needs to put innovation into the heart of its lineup rather than into niche vehicles like Volt and ATS.

#30455 of 32000 Re: Malibu beats Altima, Passat, Optima, Subaru [tlong] by ateixeira

Jan 11, 2013 (10:38 am)

Replying to: tlong (Jan 11, 2013 10:34 am)
It was a mistake to launch the expensive mild hybrid model first.
 
A lot of reviews seem to think the non-ECO model is the better car, and for a lot less $$$.

#30456 of 32000 Re: OnStar [steve_] by tlong

Jan 11, 2013 (10:43 am)

Replying to: Stever@Edmunds (Jan 11, 2013 9:46 am)
Mostly you'll have to pay the subscription. $199 annually for the basic one that dials 911 in event of a crash, $299 if you want the turn by turn navigation.
 
The problem is that you can buy a nav for like, $100 and then no more fees except maybe refresh the DB every year or two.
 
Also, most people have smartphones that have nav and already cost near $100/month. Most people don't want yet another monthly or annual fee.
 
I do agree that automatic calling in a crash is a nice feature, but that seems to be the only real advantage. Not needed hardly ever, but could be useful in an emergency.

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