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#30437 of 32000 Re: OnStar [dieselone] by uplanderguy

Jan 11, 2013 (8:15 am)

Replying to: dieselone (Jan 11, 2013 8:13 am)
All I'm saying is, I bet that local woman in her Sebring wished she'd had OnStar.

#30438 of 32000 Re: Next CTS-V a Twin Turbo V6? [ateixeira] by dieselone

Jan 11, 2013 (8:17 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 11, 2013 8:13 am)
Nothing wrong with forced induction as long a Cadillac continues to offer a V6. Seems everyone is offering forced induction 6 cylinders and even a few turbo v8s.

#30439 of 32000 Re: Malibu beats Altima, Passat, Optima, Subaru [ateixeira] by andre1969

Jan 11, 2013 (8:19 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 11, 2013 7:55 am)
When you build cars that no longer suck, consumers flock to dealers. To be brutally honest I think the Avenger is still very weak, and needs a ground up redesign. I'm sure the next one will be a vast improvement.
 
When Chrysler restyled these cars a couple years back, didn't they put a bit more effort into the 200 than they did the Avenger? My biggest beef with both is their awkward (IMO) proportions. I sat in a 200 a couple months ago at the dealer I bought my Ram from, and its interior was definitely upgraded compared to how they used to be. Can't remember if the Avenger got any interior upgrades too, or just the improved powerplants?
 
Anyway, considering it wasn't a ground-up redesign, I think the did a pretty good job. If all I wanted was an inexpensive/cheap midsized car and didn't care about the latest and greatest, I'd consider one. But I agree, it needs to be redesigned.
 
If forced to choose a Malibu or a 200, I'd probably go for the 200. While neither one is a car that I really WANT to own, the 200 has a more useable back seat (regardless of the published specs, I at least know I can fit decently in the back of it, but I can't with the Malibu), and would come in at a lower price. These days you could probably get a V-6 200 for about the price of a base Malibu...so while I'd still hate the proportions, at least it would be kinda fun!

#30440 of 32000 Re: Malibu beats Altima, Passat, Optima, Subaru [andre1969] by ateixeira

Jan 11, 2013 (8:40 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 11, 2013 8:19 am)
I'm not a fan of the Avenger. They tried to make a baby Charger, but it's FWD, so I see it as a wannabe, lesser sedan.
 
It's also sandwiched by 2 better cars, IMHO, Dart and Charger.
 
I checked out Chryslers and the updates are half way there, but they still have a ways to go. I'd pick a Malibu and a Fusion over an Avenger even for a lot more money.

#30441 of 32000 Re: Auto emblems [ateixeira] by bpizzuti

Jan 11, 2013 (8:54 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 11, 2013 8:04 am)
GM could do a lot more with that bow tie, it just sits there.

#30442 of 32000 Re: OnStar [uplanderguy] by bpizzuti

Jan 11, 2013 (9:01 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 11, 2013 8:15 am)
What you SHOULD be asking is if she wants a car that comes with OnStar, or if she would like OnStar added to her Sebring. There's a difference.

#30443 of 32000 Re: OnStar [bpizzuti] by uplanderguy

Jan 11, 2013 (9:06 am)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 11, 2013 9:01 am)
What you SHOULD be asking is if she wants a car that comes with OnStar, or if she would like OnStar added to her Sebring.
 
Um, and that could be done...how?

#30444 of 32000 Re: OnStar [uplanderguy] by bpizzuti

Jan 11, 2013 (9:12 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 11, 2013 9:06 am)
I was specifically referring to whether the car or the OnStar was more important, but since you ask, it's called OnStarFMV (For My Vehicle) and it's a rear view mirror with built in OnStar capability, that can be added to any car. Pretty cool actually.
 
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Brands/OnStar/pcmcat246300050007.c?id=pcmcat24630005- 0007

#30445 of 32000 Re: OnStar [bpizzuti] by busiris

Jan 11, 2013 (9:19 am)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 11, 2013 9:12 am)
You just beat me to posting the link.
 
Judging from what I saw on the Best Buy web page, it doesn't appear to be a big seller....

#30446 of 32000 Re: OnStar [ateixeira] by imidazol97

Jan 11, 2013 (9:20 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 11, 2013 7:40 am)
>judge based on merit, not by the label of the manufacturer, and that's what I do.
 
And you do.

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