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#30427 of 32000 Re: OnStar [ateixeira]
Jan 11, 2013 (7:44 am)
You'll have to admit, you're not seeing a whole lot of that on here, are you?
#30428 of 32000 Re: Auto emblems [bpizzuti]
Jan 11, 2013 (7:48 am)
I've always felt that a logo should have an image or icon, not letters, so I don't like Ford's or the H from Honda and Hyundai.
Chevy's bow tie is just fine, much better than "GMC", IMHO.
#30429 of 32000 Re: Malibu beats Altima, Passat, Optima, Subaru [andre1969]
Jan 11, 2013 (7:53 am)
Speaking of 'unfair or not', CR also tested the Avenger, but they had it down to 43 points to the Malibu's 83.
Actually, if I hadn't heard anything bad about the Avenger's reliability from people, and the cost was low, it wouldn't keep me from buying one if I wanted one. The shape of the rear door would though.
Last time I looked at one at an auto show (several years ago), I was pleasantly surprised at its U.S. assembly point and very high 'domestic' content.
#30430 of 32000 Re: Chevy Spin to be shown at NAIAS, along with 4 others [ateixeira]
Jan 11, 2013 (7:51 am)
It's peak summer heat there so I'm sure that's the case. She's a lawyer so she drives in to town a lot, kids to school, short errands, etc. YMMV but she likely has the worst commute to get decent MPGs.
When I drive in that type of environment in my Expedition, I'm lucky to average 10mpg. No way will a Suburban get close to 15 in that environment.
#30431 of 32000 Re: Malibu beats Altima, Passat, Optima, Subaru [uplanderguy]
Jan 11, 2013 (7:55 am)
Avenger was the lamest car in that class.
It did improve when they added the Pentastar engine and the new 6EAT but CR may have tested one without that powertrain, or perhaps before the improvements happened. Back page has an index with the month and year each car was last tested for reference.
Even Chrysler fans agree, look at the uptick in sales with the recent improvements. Dodge sales were up 26% for 2012.
When you build cars that no longer suck, consumers flock to dealers. To be brutally honest I think the Avenger is still very weak, and needs a ground up redesign. I'm sure the next one will be a vast improvement.
#30432 of 32000 Re: Auto emblems [ateixeira]
Jan 11, 2013 (7:58 am)
GMC's logo is a cop-out, Kia is just as bad.
#30433 of 32000 Re: Auto emblems [bpizzuti]
Jan 11, 2013 (8:04 am)
Yeah, Kia's sucks.
I like Audi's four rings. Classy and historically meaningful.
I also like Subaru's, and there's a secret handshake, if you will: the hood latch release aligns with the right-most start in the Pleiades constellation. So the emblem actually serves a hidden function. Now that's cool design.
VW's logo opens the hatch of a GTI, but I don't like that it's just letters.
#30434 of 32000 Re: OnStar [bpizzuti]
Jan 11, 2013 (8:13 am)
Remember, GM is a car company, not an OnStar company.
True, and Onstar did nothing to improve the lousy GM car's I've owned and certainly doesn't attract me to a GM vehicle. I have to like the vehicle first.
Though it would be highly unlikely I'd be willing to pay extra for Onstar as I never was compelled to pay for it in the past.