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#30300 of 32000 Malibu gets some bad marks by xrunner2

Jan 08, 2013 (7:35 pm)

Replying to: circlew (Jan 08, 2013 5:50 pm)
Let's consider the Malibu as above-average dependability for a moment. Why have sales tanked?
  
I just can't understand why the top global auto manufacturer doesn't have a #1 mid-sizer that blows away the competition in their home market!
 
Saw Motorweek tonight (it apparently was a rerun) and they rapped Malibu on two counts. Poor rear seat legroom - they showed it. Poor gas mileage, only 22.4 mpg. This was a turbo that was tested.
 
Another car tested, in the ultra luxury ultra expensive segment, was a Bentley GT Turbo V8 with 500 HP and weighing 5000 pounds. It got 20.7 mpg per the testers. The show DID NOT compare the Bentley to the Malibu.
 
I know this is apples and oranges, but how embarrassing is it to GM that their Malibu got only 1.7 mpg more than the heavier and much more powerful Bentley.
 
People watching this Motorweek show probably wondered why the Malibu did not return far, far more mpg with a 4 cyl engine than the Bentley with a 500HP turbo V8.

#30301 of 32000 Re: Malibu gets some bad marks [xrunner2] by uplanderguy

Jan 09, 2013 (4:07 am)

Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 08, 2013 7:35 pm)
I think a lot more people follow CR than MotorWeek (for right or wrong). Again, the Malibu was rated higher than most all cars in its class, if one looks at total points, in the Feb. CR. They did mention its higher sticker price, but again, I'd ask what can the cars really be bought for?
 
I still believe it needs more rear legroom. But it's not a t*** like most people here have said without so much as getting within three feet of one.

#30302 of 32000 Re: 3 years isn't enough [robr2] by uplanderguy

Jan 09, 2013 (5:01 am)

Replying to: robr2 (Jan 08, 2013 5:46 pm)
Nah. JD Powers is more "we'll slice and dice the data until it says something good about your product."
 
Apparently, nobody told Benz, BMW, Audi, Subaru, Nissan, Mini that.

#30303 of 32000 Re: year end rehash [tlong] by circlew

Jan 09, 2013 (5:53 am)

Replying to: tlong (Jan 08, 2013 6:34 pm)
A 1LT was rated higher in total points than an Optima, Subaru, Altima, and Passat.
 Maybe it will convince some buyers to come into the showrooms...
 
Perhaps this is why it might not....
 
For US Automakers, Where Does Broken Trust Go?
 
So GM, consuming taxpayer funds, wiping out many dealers, investors and paying NO compensation, may need to look beyond BP to judge how long potential customers might hold grudges.
 
Regards,
OW

#30304 of 32000 Re: 3 years isn't enough [uplanderguy] by robr2

Jan 09, 2013 (6:11 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 09, 2013 5:01 am)
Apparently, nobody told Benz, BMW, Audi, Subaru, Nissan, Mini that.
 
More info please?

#30305 of 32000 Re: Malibu gets some bad marks [uplanderguy] by bpizzuti

Jan 09, 2013 (6:51 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 09, 2013 4:07 am)
I'd ask what can the cars really be bought for?
 
This may shock you but there are mainstream cars out there that people pay sticker for. Or more, in some cases.

#30306 of 32000 Re: 3 years isn't enough [robr2] by uplanderguy

Jan 09, 2013 (6:51 am)

Replying to: robr2 (Jan 09, 2013 6:11 am)
Just that all those brands were below Chevrolet on J.D. Powers' three-year reliability survey, 2009 models, that was posted on this site maybe a week or so ago.

#30307 of 32000 Re: Malibu gets some bad marks [bpizzuti] by uplanderguy

Jan 09, 2013 (6:53 am)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 09, 2013 6:51 am)
That does shock me. After never doing that once in thirty-two years of new car buying this month, I wouldn't start now.
 
In fact, I tend to avoid new and desirable models, even when they were Chevys, for that very reason.

#30308 of 32000 Re: Malibu gets some bad marks [uplanderguy] by bpizzuti

Jan 09, 2013 (6:56 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 09, 2013 6:53 am)
I notice there's cash on the hood of the "new and desirable" Chevy right now. And not long after people were paying sticker for Hyundais. Not even Hondas, which also go for sticker sometimes. Hyundais were going for sticker, when GM can't get sticker for a Chevy (outside of the 'Vette anyway).

#30309 of 32000 Re: Malibu gets some bad marks [bpizzuti] by uplanderguy

Jan 09, 2013 (7:08 am)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 09, 2013 6:56 am)
The Equinox was going for sticker when I bought my Malibu, in mid-'11. My wife wanted one, and besides my not liking the looks of it, the refusal to deal on them was another reason I guided my wife to the Malibu.

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