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#30218 of 32000 Re: GM Card earnings.... [uplanderguy] by andres3

Jan 06, 2013 (9:11 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 06, 2013 9:02 am)
Thats because all you buy is GM's. If you GM card suddenly said you could use it on Fords, Chrysler, and Fiats (or any car built in "America") in the spirit of America, might that sway your purchasing decisions?
 
No card will give 5% back on everything anymore. The best I've seen in the past is 1.4%, but that's gone. Now I use a card that has a combo of 1%, 2%, 3% depending on what you buy. I also have another card that will give 5% back on restaurants and gas about 6 months out of the year (3 months at a time), and during those months, I use it on those things.
 
But regardless of the %, I always have the option to use it on anything, including cash money, no restrictions, no expirations.

#30219 of 32000 Re: Dec sales [uplanderguy] by tlong

Jan 06, 2013 (11:48 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 06, 2013 2:44 am)
tlong, do you subscribe? If so, you didn't see the two issues I saw recently, one showing the Focus to be least reliable in its class and the Mazda 6 the least-'liked' car by owners in its class?
 
I do subscribe. I usually skim over the car sections. I don't specifically recall either of those, particularly the Mazda 6 as I do know they show owner satisfaction, but I don't remember (doesn't mean it's not there) any comment like a car is "least liked in its class". I do know that Ford, which had been running pretty high reliablity, has had a lot of problems in the last year or two with My Ford Touch as well as the CVT on the Focus. So that means for domestic choices, you have the unreliable Focus vs. the unreliable Cruze. Of course the smaller Sonic, Spark and Fiesta might do well.

#30220 of 32000 Re: Opinions [imidazol97] by tlong

Jan 06, 2013 (11:36 am)

Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 06, 2013 6:46 am)
GM has several vehicles I'm willing to consider.
 
You (rightfully) criticize all of the stereotyping. Yet are you willing to consider buying other makes? How about foreign nameplates made with high US content?
 
If not, then does that make you just as biased as others, but in a different direction?
 
If so, then kudos!

#30221 of 32000 Re: GM Card earnings.... [uplanderguy] by busiris

Jan 06, 2013 (12:01 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 06, 2013 9:02 am)
5% back is an excellent return only if you're interested in what you can spend that 5% on.
 
A credit card that gives you 50% back on all purchases you make at your local nudie bar is worthless if you never go to the nudie bar in the first place.
 
So, if you are in the market for being locked into what you can spend your" cash back reward" on, then it's a deal. If you don't like being locked into what you can purchase with your rewards, then it's no deal at all.
 
I'm not saying its worthless... I usually try to stay at Hampton Inns when I travel, and I get points for staying there. And, I use those points for free stays at Hampton Inns, which is a service I use. So, it can be a smart decision. Then again, I get the points for staying there, not for using any particular payment type.
 
Personally, I'd rather take a smaller % rebate with no restrictions and have the option to use it however I wish, unless I know for 100% sure I'm going to use the restricted rebate on a product/service that it applies toward.

#30222 of 32000 Re: Dec sales [uplanderguy] by tlong

Jan 06, 2013 (1:00 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 06, 2013 2:44 am)
I now have the 2013 Buying Guide in my hands, and not only does it not say that the Mazda 6 was least liked in its class, but listed under CARS: FAMILY it shows the rankings and owner satisfaction of about 12 makes/models. The Mazda 6 GT gets an "average" for Owner Satisfaction. The only car worse than average? - the Chevy Impala LT. So no, the Mazda is not worst, at least in the categorization in this section.

#30223 of 32000 Re: Dec sales [tlong] by bpizzuti

Jan 06, 2013 (1:11 pm)

Replying to: tlong (Jan 06, 2013 1:00 pm)
This is for the 2013, right? Not the recent redesign that just dropped? Might be why the redesign is here, it was pretty much the oldest car in the class. However, it's actually not a class Mazda concerns itself all THAT much with.

#30224 of 32000 Re: Dec sales [bpizzuti] by tlong

Jan 06, 2013 (1:25 pm)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 06, 2013 1:11 pm)
This is for the 2013, right? Not the recent redesign that just dropped?
 
It's historical data, so I assume it's from the recent years of the current model, not the new one.

#30225 of 32000 Re: Dec sales [tlong] by ateixeira

Jan 06, 2013 (1:25 pm)

Replying to: tlong (Jan 06, 2013 1:00 pm)
They poll owners and ask would you buy the same car again, I'm guessing what uplanderguy saw were those results. I can see that dated, oversized sedan having owners with a little buyers remorse.
 
Of course it was just replaced. Diesel on the way, too, which will likely boost that rating.
 
CR bias can be blatant, they don't recommend the Prius C despite it being among the most reliable cars in their survey.

#30226 of 32000 Re: Dec sales [ateixeira] by andre1969

Jan 06, 2013 (1:38 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 06, 2013 1:25 pm)
I actually found something appealing about the outgoing Mazda 6. Hard to put my finger on why, exactly, but I liked the way it looked. But, who knows...with a little exposure I might have learned to hate it, too!
 
The new Mazda 6 looks like it could be interesting.

#30227 of 32000 Re: Dec sales [andre1969] by ateixeira

Jan 06, 2013 (1:45 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 06, 2013 1:38 pm)
I hated it. You had to duck to get in the rear door, they cancelled the wagon, and ditched the manual trans. 3 strikes.

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