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and Toyota may be headed for that as well (they're in for a wakeup call when that new Fusion hits the streets). Toyota is actually pretty pigheaded. It got the first wakeup call when the 2003 Altima hit it, hard. They woke up, for about a second and then went back to sleep. The Malibu didnt do a good job. I'm curious to see if the Fusion will be able to kick Toyota harder in the nut. |
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I just wish to use this opportunity to say Merry Christmas to those who celebrate, and happy holidays to those who don't. We don't always get along, and our views may contradict with each other. But nevertheless, it's holiday season. Have fun, guys |
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Lexus has announced a new hybrid-only sedan called Lexus HS, to be shown at Detroit Auto Show. The 2010 Lexus HS250h will go on sale during 2009, or at least one full year before the Volt, and will be priced about similarly.
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Replying to: torque_r (Dec 25, 2008 1:55 am) The HS250h will just be a re-badge of the Camry Hybrid. It better get better mileage or the Fusion/Milan hybrid will cut into the sales. Unlike the Volt none of these are Plug-in Hybrids. Until they actually go on sale the Volt will be GM vaporware. The key being new battery technology that is virtually untested in any vehicles. Li-Ion or whatever the latest combination to be tried, has NO longevity history. Even the Prius with NiMH battery, has not reached its expected life cycle of 10 years. As far as GM and hybrids go they are a farce. I owned one for a short time and the only thing it offered that was practical was a heavy duty 110 volt AC supply for running power tools or emergency power. I hated the auto stop feature as it would stop going around a corner and then surge when you tried to accelerate. Bad in the rain. Glad I was able to get a decent price selling it. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 24, 2008 6:07 am) Bill
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Replying to: uplanderguy (Dec 25, 2008 7:39 am) So two reasons Ford may build more in Mexico. Cost of labor and quality of workmanship. I would bet you get less complaining out of Mexican workers also. They are Union in Mexico. So that should please Rock & DD. That's not to say Detroit isn't already saving a bundle by moving to Mexico. Mexican assembly workers average just $3.50 an hour plus benefits, compared with about $27 hourly plus benefits at a GM or Ford plant in the U.S. http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/07_15/b4029081.htm |
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then, that explains it then. That's not to say Detroit isn't already saving a bundle by moving to Mexico. Mexican assembly workers average just $3.50 an hour plus benefits, compared with about $27 hourly plus benefits at a GM or Ford plant in the U.S. Look at the savings Ford realizes by having their vehicles built there! The benefits are added to that $3.50/hr., true, but how much could the bene's be? Interesting and telling bit of data there.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Dec 25, 2008 9:04 am)
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where is GM planning on building the Chevy Volt, BTW? Cananada? Misspelling on purpose! Or by my new dentist friend in Sonora, Mexico?
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Dec 25, 2008 4:37 pm) |
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