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#29088 of 32000 Re: Will they ever learn? [uplanderguy]
Dec 06, 2012 (3:17 pm)
Intuitive: what you're used to.
Newfangled, complicated error-prone useless shlocky unnecessary gadgetry: what your kids are used to.
That look that you have right now is the same one your kids give you when you lecture them about how they don't need a phone that can talk and give directions through their car stereo.
#29089 of 32000 Re: Will they ever learn? [bpizzuti]
Dec 06, 2012 (3:23 pm)
Technology gone wrong though.... B of A ATM's, yes, you don't need to use envelopes for deposits, but dang, it takes at least 5 times longer to do anything and everything compared to 80's era ATM's.
#29091 of 32000 Re: Consumer Reports continues to conspire [bpizzuti]
Dec 06, 2012 (5:54 pm)
I know they're supposed to be great-driving vehicles, but I just cannot like the current Ford 'fish mouth' grille styling.
I worked in Pittsburgh with a fellow who also has an '11 Malibu (his is an LTZ though). Like me, he only likes the rear-view of the current car better than his. I like the look and feel of the interior of the new car better, but dislike the shorter wheelbase. Again, I'd sure think there was an SAE standard for measuring interior space, but maybe not, since the Malibu is reported to have two inches more in the rear than Sonata.
I'm 5'8" and I sat in one in front, where I'd place the seat, then sat in back and I had room. If my wife and I needed a new car, I'd have her check out the space front and rear and see what she'd say, although she's four inches shorter than me. I'm thinking there could be some good buys on the current Malibu soon. I look for that kind of thing.
I'm quite interested in the next Impala, although don't see myself buying a new car for a long while yet.
Someone mentioned inventories of Fusion versus Malibu. I think one doesn't have to be an auto analyst to know that there'd be more Malibus than Fusions, as the Fusion is just a recent rollout. The Malibu has been out for what, eight months?
#29092 of 32000 Re: Consumer Reports continues to conspire [uplanderguy]
Dec 06, 2012 (6:22 pm)
I liked the new Fusion when I first started seeing pictures of it, partly because that front-end reminded me a bit of a '57-59 Chrysler 300 Letter Series. But, when I finally saw one in person, it just had a sort of blandness about it.
As for legroom, I honestly have no idea how they measure it, but I'm sure it's some kind of combination of the fore-aft room, plus, how high the seat is off the floor. So, two cars could have, say, 38 inches of published legroom, but if one has a seat that's high off the floor, but not that much fore-aft room, it's going to feel cramped. But, if the seat is too low, you're not going to have much thigh support.
#29093 of 32000 Re: Consumer Reports continues to conspire [andre1969]
Dec 06, 2012 (6:32 pm)
Sometimes i think each vehicle measures legroom differently. There have been vehicles that looked meager in the specs, but fit my tall frame fine, while others were the reverse. One thing I have found consistent is that Toyota's with a sunroof generally lack head room if you're tall. Gotta pimp drive them with the seat back reclined or otherwise move on to something else.
#29094 of 32000 Re: Consumer Reports continues to conspire [uplanderguy]
Dec 06, 2012 (6:41 pm)
The Malibu has only been out for 8 months because GM rushed they hybrid version out the door so it wouldn't look like Nissan's Altima caught them flat-footed (as if no one figured that out). Realistically the entire Malibu line has been out not much longer than the Fusion.
However, it's looking like the Altima and the upcoming Accord and Mazda6 are going to dominate for a while. Malibu's a disappointment, and the Fusion is suffering from QA gremlins. Hyundai's little EPA faux pas will hurt Sonata sales some. It's SO easy to lose market share due to a misstep in the midsize category.
#29095 of 32000 Re: Consumer Reports continues to conspire [bpizzuti]
Dec 06, 2012 (6:51 pm)
It's SO easy to lose market share due to a misstep in the midsize category.
...and much harder to gain it back sometimes
#29096 of 32000 Re: Consumer Reports continues to conspire [bpizzuti]
Dec 06, 2012 (8:30 pm)
For those thinking Ford would get a free pass
I'm sure it's only because CU is biased and hates on US nameplates.
#29097 of 32000 Re: Consumer Reports continues to conspire [tlong]
Dec 07, 2012 (2:38 am)
Not talking specifically about CR, but I think to say there hasn't been a general bias towards imports by writers over the past thirty years is not keepin' it real. Classic example: Dustbuster vans' high-mounted taillights mocked; nearly-identical units in Volvo praised; pull-out/push-in light switch mocked as anachronistic in a GM; praised in an import. Those are two that I remember quite specifically, although the import in the last example escapes my memory.
Also, raves about tactile 'feel' of switches, etc., but mentions of domestic advantages in price, interior space, trunk space, choice of models and trim levels, downplayed back then or not mentioned at all. Those were very real advantages whether one particular writer cared about them or not.