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#28589 of 32000 alliance not progressing? by steve_ HOST

Nov 15, 2012 (1:58 pm)

Missed this one yesterday:
 
"General Motors' Opel division is halting talks aimed at forming a deeper partnership with PSA Peugeot Citroën after the French government offered Peugeot a bailout in hopes of reducing layoffs the automaker announced earlier this year."
 
General Motors' Opel division is halting talks aimed at forming a deeper partnership with PSA Peugeot Citroën (Detroit Free Press)

#28590 of 32000 Re: light and flexible [steve_] by bpizzuti

Nov 15, 2012 (5:10 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Nov 15, 2012 1:29 pm)
Have and are usually among the heaviest. Cruze and Sonic are relatively tubby compared to their competition. It'll be nice to see them slim down.
 
You know, Daewoos were always on the heavy side too, maybe it's a consequence of GMDAT?

#28591 of 32000 Re: alliance not progressing? [steve_] by ateixeira

Nov 16, 2012 (2:01 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Nov 15, 2012 1:58 pm)
GM should run away, not walk, from that deal.
 
What were they thinking? When the boat's taking on water, you do not buy an anchor!

#28592 of 32000 Re: light and flexible [bpizzuti] by ateixeira

Nov 16, 2012 (2:03 pm)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Nov 15, 2012 5:10 pm)
Better Korean cars have slimmed down quite a bit compared to predecessors, I wouldn't be surprised to see similar improvements from GM-DAT.
 
The Sonic looks like fun but she's chubby and could lose a few pounds.

#28593 of 32000 Re: light and flexible [ateixeira] by uplanderguy

Nov 17, 2012 (3:04 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 16, 2012 2:03 pm)
The Sonic looks like fun but she's chubby and could lose a few pounds.
 
And supposedly well-built and reliable if you're a fan of CR.

#28594 of 32000 Re: light and flexible [uplanderguy] by bpizzuti

Nov 17, 2012 (6:07 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Nov 17, 2012 3:04 am)
Yeah but weight is a problem for small cars. One of the reasons some people buy smaller cars is because they like to drive something lightweight and tossable. The weight takes that away: the heavier a car is, the more slowly you can change direction.

#28595 of 32000 CR by uplanderguy

Nov 17, 2012 (4:24 pm)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Nov 17, 2012 6:07 am)
I was thumbing through the CR Auto Buyer's Guide issue, dated December 2012, on the rack at a store today and read their review of the Impala. In their summary right under the picture of the car, they listed, basically, how it was an old design, blah blah blah. Trouble is, the photo was of the 2014 Impala.
 
Seems a tad sloppy to me.

#28596 of 32000 Re: CR [uplanderguy] by bpizzuti

Nov 17, 2012 (4:36 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Nov 17, 2012 4:24 pm)
There was probably also a mention of an upcoming redesign and a reference to the photo being a predicted representation of it. They do that a lot with cars that are about to have a redesign released.
 
But I'm sure when it comes to the Impala it really means that it's a vast conspiracy against GM, rather than just their usual policy like it is with Ford, Honda, Toyota, etc...

#28597 of 32000 Re: CR [bpizzuti] by uplanderguy

Nov 17, 2012 (4:49 pm)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Nov 17, 2012 4:36 pm)
At the bottom of the article, it mentioned that a new car was coming out. One might think that with a photo of the new car, there might've been a subtltle about that model not being out yet. I'm not sure why they wouldn't have shown a photo of a current Impala since that's the car they were reviewing. No conspiracy, just sloppy editing IMHO and I think to any person without a 'dog in the hunt'.
 
Don't take my word for it? It's on newsstands now.

#28598 of 32000 Re: CR [uplanderguy] by tlong

Nov 17, 2012 (5:36 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Nov 17, 2012 4:49 pm)
At the bottom of the article, it mentioned that a new car was coming out. One might think that with a photo of the new car, there might've been a subtltle about that model not being out yet. I'm not sure why they wouldn't have shown a photo of a current Impala since that's the car they were reviewing.
 
You're right - they could have just said it was an old car and not mentioned that a new one was coming and not included a picture of the new one. I know that if I were anti-GM, that's what I would have done.

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