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#27300 of 32000 Re: GM woes on a personal level... [imidazol97] by fezo

Sep 19, 2012 (8:50 am)

Replying to: imidazol97 (Sep 19, 2012 7:46 am)
Just spent a fortune doing front and rear rotors and pads and two frozen calipers on my daughter's Celica. Still way cheaper than replacing the car which is basically sound has virtually no resale value. (178K on the clock.)

#27301 of 32000 Re: GM woes on a personal level... [andre1969] by circlew

Sep 19, 2012 (10:15 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Sep 19, 2012 5:22 am)
Try an AAMCO repair shop. Dealer repair prices are too high AFAIC.
 
Regards,
OW

#27302 of 32000 Re: New Ford recall [uplanderguy] by ateixeira

Sep 19, 2012 (11:34 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Sep 16, 2012 5:23 am)
Such a shame. Great cars, poor execution. Specifically the launches are being botched.
 
Let's hope they nail it for the Fusion.

#27303 of 32000 Re: New Ford recall [ateixeira] by dieselone

Sep 19, 2012 (1:07 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 19, 2012 11:34 am)
Such a shame. Great cars, poor execution. Specifically the launches are being botched.
  
Let's hope they nail it for the Fusion.

 
So true. Ford has come a long way, but they still have some warts for sure.
 
I think the Fusion has the potential to be a grand slam. But if they botch the launch like they are so capable of doing, it could really derail Ford's progress going forward.

#27304 of 32000 Re: New Ford recall [dieselone] by ateixeira

Sep 19, 2012 (1:23 pm)

Replying to: dieselone (Sep 19, 2012 1:07 pm)
In the New thread some say the new Accord is one the road already, what's taking Ford so long? Seems like Honda cut in line and launched first.

#27305 of 32000 Re: New Ford recall [ateixeira] by dieselone

Sep 19, 2012 (1:31 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 19, 2012 1:23 pm)
In the New thread some say the new Accord is one the road already, what's taking Ford so long? Seems like Honda cut in line and launched first.
 
In Ford's defense, the Fusion was last updated in 2010 vs 2008 for the Accord, so I'm fairly impressed that Ford will have basically an all new car only 3 years after the 2010's were heavily refreshed.
 
Plus Ford has had their hands full with several new/refreshed models, F150, Mustang, Focus, Fiesta, Explorer, and Trans Connect etc. So Ford certainly hasn't been sitting on there hands.
 
What remains to be seen is how well the Fusion will compete the Accord, even with my Ford bias, I can see the Accord is going to be more than competitive.
 

#27306 of 32000 Re: New Ford recall [dieselone] by ateixeira

Sep 19, 2012 (1:52 pm)

Replying to: dieselone (Sep 19, 2012 1:31 pm)
Ford's lineup is great, they just seem to release v0.9 to the public.
 
The Edge that got recalled isn't new but the powertrain is.
 
Fusion has the edge on styling, but both look good.

#27307 of 32000 Re: New Ford recall [ateixeira] by dieselone

Sep 19, 2012 (1:59 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 19, 2012 1:52 pm)
Ford's lineup is great, they just seem to release v0.9 to the public.
 
LOL, it's been that way for decades.

#27308 of 32000 Re: New Ford recall [ateixeira] by andre1969

Sep 19, 2012 (2:41 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 19, 2012 1:52 pm)
Fusion has the edge on styling, but both look good.
 
I wonder if the Fusion is one of those styles that, while it looks great now, might just be a bit too trendy, and will wear thin and get old after awhile? Meanwhile, the Accord, which looks good but more conservative, might stand the test of time a bit better?
 
In 1957, everybody was going crazy over the radical new Plymouth and Ford. Yet today, it's the '57 Chevy that everyone clamors for. If it wasn't for Stephen King, the "Forward Look" Plymouth would probably be a forgotten memory by now.
 
I sorta had high hopes for the 2013 Altima, but after seeing a few, I don't really care for them. The Malibu is okay, in an innofensive, wallflower sort of way, but too small for my tastes, and my mind classfies it as a compact. Camry does nothing for me. 200/Avenger have been improved considerably in the past year or two, but I just don't like the overall shape of them. So, if I were going for a midsized car, I guess my main interest would be an Accord or Fusion.
 
Is a new Mazda6 coming out anytime soon?

#27309 of 32000 Re: New Ford recall [andre1969] by dieselone

Sep 19, 2012 (2:50 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Sep 19, 2012 2:41 pm)
I wonder if the Fusion is one of those styles that, while it looks great now, might just be a bit too trendy, and will wear thin and get old after awhile?
 
It's possible. I'm curious to see how the base model looks with smaller/cheaper wheels. The Accord certainly has a nice conservative look that really won't offend many and I have no doubts the Accord will outsell the Fusion, particularly in the retail market considering the Accord has less than 1/3 of the fleets sales vs. the Fusion.

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