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#26962 of 32000 Re: 2013 Cruze review CAUTION: NOT CONVENTIONAL WISDOM [andre1969] by bpizzuti

Sep 13, 2012 (6:32 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Sep 13, 2012 3:30 pm)
Well, with Cruze and Sonic using the same engines, maybe they are worried about cannibalizing sales, but someone looking for a highway hatch would probably prefer the Cruze over the Sonic.
 
GM seems to be extraordinarily gun-shy about hatches, and has been for a long time. It's really weird.

#26963 of 32000 Re: Sonic [andre1969] by uplanderguy

Sep 14, 2012 (2:30 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Sep 13, 2012 4:52 pm)
I just detest that 'sawed off', completely vertical look at the back of the Sonic hatch. I much-prefer the looks of the sedan, plus I think I remember seeing that the sedan is actually longer than the hatch.
 
When I think 'hatch', I think of the area around the rear window opening too, not just the trunk area. I'm thinking that wasn't the case with the Allstate. Of course, most sedans today have the trunk pass-through/folding rear seat feature, anyway. The whole difference would be some height and the size of the opening.

#26964 of 32000 Re: 2013 Cruze review CAUTION: NOT CONVENTIONAL WISDOM [andres3] by uplanderguy

Sep 14, 2012 (3:45 am)

Replying to: andres3 (Sep 13, 2012 1:09 pm)
Even if that occurs, you can rest easy, knowing that steering wheel was made in the good ol' USA.
 
Astonishing to me that an American would not promote something being made in the U.S. Duh.

#26965 of 32000 Re: 2013 Cruze review CAUTION: NOT CONVENTIONAL WISDOM [bpizzuti] by uplanderguy

Sep 14, 2012 (5:12 am)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Sep 13, 2012 1:33 pm)
I think you certainly have to realize, that a reviewer just doesn't go out and say, "Hey, I'm gonna review this car" (except CR, which I know buys the cars). The car company gives them a car to review. That's the way it is anywhere. They may request a car from the manufacturer first; that I don't know.

#26966 of 32000 Caprice police car by uplanderguy

Sep 14, 2012 (5:14 am)

Coming out of Sheetz this morning, I saw a young local cop approach his Caprice police car. I asked him, "How's that Caprice drive?" and he smiled and said, "Ahh, great!". I said, "They're good cars?" and he said, "oh, yeah". I asked if anyone else ever asked him about them and he confirmed. A small thing, but I'm waiting for someone here to counter with, "Well, what could he say? He's a public servant answering to a taxpayer!" or something equally inane.

#26967 of 32000 Re: 2013 Cruze review CAUTION: NOT CONVENTIONAL WISDOM [uplanderguy] by steve_ HOST

Sep 14, 2012 (5:16 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Sep 14, 2012 5:12 am)
Edmunds buys some (most?) of the cars in the long term tests. On most of the rest, the fine print at the bottom of the review will indicate if the manufacturer provided the car or if the editor went to a manufacturered sponsored event (any swag is supposed to wind up in one of the break rooms for employees to snag on a first come basis).
 
Uplanderguy, you know cops can't drive.

#26968 of 32000 Re: 2013 Cruze review CAUTION: NOT CONVENTIONAL WISDOM [uplanderguy] by bpizzuti

Sep 14, 2012 (5:50 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Sep 14, 2012 5:12 am)
That doesn't stop most publications from disliking a car they review. Automakers realize that automotive journalists can't suck up to them all the time, and are going to give an honest evaluation. As distinct from ad-copy writers who will just write whatever the manufacturer wants them to say about the car. But guess who's opinion is held in higher regard?

#26969 of 32000 Re: 2013 Cruze review CAUTION: NOT CONVENTIONAL WISDOM [bpizzuti] by uplanderguy

Sep 14, 2012 (7:19 am)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Sep 14, 2012 5:50 am)
Again, you are coming to a conclusion that anyone at Scripps-Howard is an ad writer. Again, I have seen total puff pieces like you are talking about, in sections marked "Advertising", but I've never seen them totally diss a competitor, repeatedly, in one of them.
 
Again, it seems doubtful an ad writer would write in a review, "The Accord has some catching up to do."

#26970 of 32000 Re: 2013 Cruze review CAUTION: NOT CONVENTIONAL WISDOM [steve_] by uplanderguy

Sep 14, 2012 (6:51 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Sep 14, 2012 5:16 am)
Edmunds buys some (most?) of the cars in the long term tests.
 
I would expect that more in a long-term test, which I think is the exception to the rule, although I know I've seen long-term tests in magazines where they comment about returning the car to the manufacturer after the end of the long-term test.

#26971 of 32000 Re: 2013 Cruze review CAUTION: NOT CONVENTIONAL WISDOM [uplanderguy] by andres3

Sep 14, 2012 (9:06 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Sep 14, 2012 3:45 am)
Astonishing to me that an American would not promote something being made in the U.S. Duh.
 
I'd promote something being made in the USA if it was worth promoting.
 
I won't promote garbage.
 
Frankly, The Big 3 embarrass me as an American.
 
How did it ever get so bad! Why did they let it get so bad!??!

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