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#24999 of 32000 Re: GM gets 6 of 10 spots in best American cars list [ateixeira]
by imidazol97
Jun 28, 2012 (2:15 pm)
The totalscore info was done by a Karl Brauer, editor in chief of Total Car Score.
Edmunds had or has a Karl Brauer. Any connection?
#25000 of 32000 Re: GM gets 6 of 10 spots in best American cars list [imidazol97]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Jun 28, 2012 (2:28 pm)
The same. Karl left, oh, a year or so ago to start Total Car Score.
#25001 of 32000 Re: Yup, it's trivial. [uplanderguy]
by circlew
Jun 29, 2012 (4:51 pm)
IMO, you need to change the valve cover gaskets. Tightening only goes so far.
Hope your fix works short term.
Regards,
OW
#25002 of 32000 Re: Yup, it's trivial. [busiris]
by circlew
Jun 29, 2012 (4:52 pm)
Exactly. If it's designed correctly, no fires are possible.
Regards,
OW
#25003 of 32000 GM Stock $19.41 / share
by kernick
Jul 02, 2012 (8:03 am)
Hey, if you want to support "baseball, apple-pie, and Chevrolet for the 4th" get on your broker's website and buy some GM stock. The stock is near it's year-low.
Also a report out today, is that U.S. manufacturing has ended its small recovery, and we're now back in contraction mode. I don't see the issues in Europe solved, or the problems in DC being solved anytime soon. So if you do buy some GM stock, remember that these are the "Good Times" right now, and the stimulus is wearing off and the budget cuts are yet to come.
#25004 of 32000 Re: GM Stock $19.41 / share [kernick]
by motorcity6
Jul 02, 2012 (9:17 am)
With the Govt running the auto company it's really a mystery as to the stock pricing spread..Very hard to believe anything run by the jackals in Washington..The Asian and European transplants in the USA are quickly devouring the pure American car..The remaining shares held by the government are rumored that $50/share is needed for the taxpayer to exit the GM buyout without losing on the takeover...Clever accounting and lots of snake oil will be the answer to "GM's Worth".
Ford is starting to bled on it's European operations and Chrysler is an unknown with it's Italian ownership..I've exited the auto industry in 2002 as a parts supplier and have witnessed the demise of the supply base, however most of the Asian assembly plants obtain their parts from suppliers in the US owned by Asian companies..
One thing we know is that the car pricing will continue to rise and the product offered will be an "electronic gadget" requiring a different approach to debugging whereas within a year after purchase the upgrades will obsolete your one year old car which one still owes $25,000 on..
I see the new Caddy XTS shares the 2013 Impala body and the 3.6 engine, with pricing starting $44k to $61k.. The new ATS will have a 270 hp turbo-4banger probably starting around 40k..maybe using the Malibu structure..
Maybe the car warranty will be altered to 15yr/200,000 miles ?????, financing to 10yrs????? The whole game is up for grabs....
#25005 of 32000 Re: GM Stock $19.41 / share [motorcity6]
by imidazol97
Jul 02, 2012 (10:39 am)
>The new ATS will have a 270 hp turbo-4banger probably starting around 40k..maybe using the Malibu structure..
Is the Malibu going rear wheel drive? I thought the ATS uses the alpha platform which is REAR wheel drive.
>new Caddy XTS shares the 2013 Impala body
The XTS uses an ENLARGED version of the Epsilon platform, so I don't know if sharing is the right connection. As for the engines, there are many variations of engines of the same displacement, so that might be true. With a little research I find the XTS and Impala both get the same high feature version of the 3.6. Of course for the Impala that's a high option engine, with a 4-cyl being the beginning point.
I have read elsewhere that all GM's engines would be DI in 2013 or 2014. Is that true here?
#25006 of 32000 Re: GM Stock $19.41 / share [motorcity6]
by berri
Jul 02, 2012 (11:10 am)
There's another way of looking at that stock price I think - it becomes an acquisition target for someone entering, or expanding into the US market. You don't necessarily need the plants, but the dealership and distribution network, as well as knowledge of the US market ( finance, sales, advertising, legal, etc.) may be desirable assets at the right price.
#25007 of 32000 Re: GM Stock $19.41 / share [imidazol97]
by tjc78
Jul 02, 2012 (11:10 am)
I have read elsewhere that all GM's engines would be DI in 2013 or 2014. Is that true here
I haven't heard that, but it really surprises me they still put the NON-DI 3.6 in the CTS. It doesn't make much to me. Wouldn't having just one V6 simplify things? How much would the DI add to the base price?
RE:XTS. I couldn't get a definitive answer by searching. Is it the same platform as the current LaCrosse or not? I always thought the LaCrosse was a stretched Epsilon (Malibu) as well.
#25008 of 32000 Re: GM Stock $19.41 / share [tjc78]
by andre1969
Jul 02, 2012 (11:22 am)
RE:XTS. I couldn't get a definitive answer by searching. Is it the same platform as the current LaCrosse or not? I always thought the LaCrosse was a stretched Epsilon (Malibu) as well.
That's my perception of it, that the XTS is essentially Cadillac's version of the LaCrosse (I looked up some specs a couple weeks ago, and most dimensions were very similar), while the Malibu (and Regal) are shortened versions.
So, I dunno where that leaves the Impala. I found some specs of it here.
The wheelbase and overall length and width suggest that it could still be based on the LaCrosse/XTS and Regal/Malibu.