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#24828 of 32000 shopping small cars? by steve_ HOST

Jun 13, 2012 (1:41 pm)

A reporter is interested in talking to any car shoppers who are thinking about buying any one of the following small cars: Chevy Cruze, Ford Focus, Hyundai Elantra, Honda Civic or Dodge Dart. Please send a brief description of your shopping experience and your preferred contact information to PRedmunds.com by Monday, June 18th.

#24829 of 32000 Volt accolades by ateixeira

Jun 13, 2012 (1:27 pm)

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/06/13/ford-ferrari-and-bmw-clean-up-at-2012-interna- tional-engine-of-t/
 
General Motors won the award for the Green category with its 1.4-liter range extender as seen in the Chevrolet Volt
 
Funny thing is the rumor mill says they'll replace it in 2014.
 
Isn't it an iron block design? They should go with something lighter for a vehicle like the Volt.

#24830 of 32000 Re: shopping small cars? [steve_] by andre1969

Jun 13, 2012 (1:51 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Jun 13, 2012 1:41 pm)
The Cruze and Civic have actually caught my attention now and then, and I'm thinking about checking out the Dart when it comes out...or, is it out already?
 
Other than sitting in a Cruze once at a GM show though, that's about as far as I've actually pursued it.
 
And, I have a gut feeling that if I went into the Dodge dealership looking for a Dart, I'd end up leaving with a Ram or Charger. Hey, RamCharger...they ought to bring that name back!

#24831 of 32000 Re: shopping small cars? [andre1969] by ateixeira

Jun 14, 2012 (6:25 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 13, 2012 1:51 pm)
Too bad we don't get the attractive wagon model. They should bring a diesel wagon - look at how many Jetta wagons are diesel (almost all?).
 
Saw a Verano on the road this AM, and I swear, I thought I read "Viagra".
 
Indeed, it's supposed to make the brand more youthful. Freudian slip?

#24832 of 32000 Re: shopping small cars? [andre1969] by steve_ HOST

Jun 14, 2012 (7:03 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 13, 2012 1:51 pm)
Dodge says the Dart will be available in Q2 2012. Supposedly started shipping near the end of May. So, any day now. Edmunds got a tester from Dodge. No idea if they have been spotted in the wild.
 
It tested a bit faster than the Cruze but some of the commenters over at IL think the Cruze will be tough competition for it.
 
2013 Dodge Dart Full Test (Inside Line)
 

 
And the Cruze:
 

#24833 of 32000 Re: shopping small cars? [steve_] by tjc78

Jun 14, 2012 (8:38 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Jun 14, 2012 7:03 am)
Is it me or does the Dart really look like the previous generation Elantra?

#24834 of 32000 Re: shopping small cars? [tjc78] by andre1969

Jun 14, 2012 (10:01 am)

Replying to: tjc78 (Jun 14, 2012 8:38 am)
Is it me or does the Dart really look like the previous generation Elantra?
 
From that angle, I think it definitely does. It sort of reminds me of a 2002 or so Elantra hatchback, just with mini-Charger taillights grafted on.
 
I think the Dart looks really good from the front to the B-pillar, but IMO starts to lose it a bit in the rear door area, and definitely loses points in the C-pillar/rump area, only to be somewhat salvaged by those taillights.

#24835 of 32000 Re: shopping small cars? [andre1969] by ateixeira

Jun 14, 2012 (1:08 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 14, 2012 10:01 am)
Dart looks good inside and out.
 
Hope they get the quality right...the idea of a super-sized italian built to a cost concerns me.

#24836 of 32000 Re: shopping small cars? [ateixeira] by steve_ HOST

Jun 14, 2012 (1:12 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 14, 2012 1:08 pm)
Whether it's Fiat or Europe in general, it's enough to give Akerson heartburn. He's not too happy with the CAW either. (Bloomberg)

#24837 of 32000 Terrain Denali 3.6l by ateixeira

Jun 14, 2012 (1:45 pm)

I prefer the 'nox, personally, but this is a pretty complete, if pricey, package:
 
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/06/14/2013-gmc-terrain-denali-first-drive-review/

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