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#24825 of 32000 Re: Regal Upmarket or Failing? [andre1969] by tjc78

Jun 12, 2012 (10:59 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 12, 2012 10:36 am)
And the back seat of the new LaCrosse is a world of difference
 
After I wrote that I should have clarified. The front seat room is very similar, but the rear is much improved. I have my front seat almost all the way back with a slight rake to it and there is plenty of room in the back for a six footer.
 
The only problem is the roofline makes it hard to get out of the rear seat. In terms of comparison the LaCrosse is much roomier than the Taurus, but the Avalon is probably a bit bigger (and has a flat floor in the back). I also noticed (while getting the FE #s) that the LaCrosse is classified as mid-size and I would have to think the sloping rear roof shrinks interior volume just enough to give that designation. It is certainly a bigger car than a Camry/Accord.

#24826 of 32000 GM/Peugeot Deal by motorcity6

Jun 13, 2012 (12:10 pm)

Some months back Government Motors bought a 7% interest in the French company, Peugeot and Iran produces some 500,000 cars annually for Peugeot.
 
Strange things are happening with our "Bailout Dough"
 
The older LaCrosse was produced on the old W body same as Impala, Grand Prix, and Olds Intrigue..I was looking at a 2008 LaCrosse CXL, 10k mi, leather, and sunroof..one owner with a year of warranty remaining, and in checking owner complaints, I find that it is not great..Steering, tranny along with sloppy workmanship on interior..
 
Trying to fill up the 3rd slot in the garage with something that my visitors can drive.. Might just offer the dealer 12k cash..
 
Back to Peugeot, and the only one I have seen in the last few years was driven by James on the TV series, Mentalist....

#24827 of 32000 Re: GM/Peugeot Deal [motorcity6] by ateixeira

Jun 13, 2012 (12:13 pm)

Replying to: motorcity6 (Jun 13, 2012 12:10 pm)
208 vs. Spark, what do you like?
 
I'm a rally fan so I'm biased, but 208 looks pretty neat:
 
http://www.motorward.com/2012/05/peugeot-208-r2-rally-car-unveiled/

#24828 of 32000 shopping small cars? by steve_ HOST

Jun 13, 2012 (1:41 pm)

A reporter is interested in talking to any car shoppers who are thinking about buying any one of the following small cars: Chevy Cruze, Ford Focus, Hyundai Elantra, Honda Civic or Dodge Dart. Please send a brief description of your shopping experience and your preferred contact information to PRedmunds.com by Monday, June 18th.

#24829 of 32000 Volt accolades by ateixeira

Jun 13, 2012 (1:27 pm)

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/06/13/ford-ferrari-and-bmw-clean-up-at-2012-interna- tional-engine-of-t/
 
General Motors won the award for the Green category with its 1.4-liter range extender as seen in the Chevrolet Volt
 
Funny thing is the rumor mill says they'll replace it in 2014.
 
Isn't it an iron block design? They should go with something lighter for a vehicle like the Volt.

#24830 of 32000 Re: shopping small cars? [steve_] by andre1969

Jun 13, 2012 (1:51 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Jun 13, 2012 1:41 pm)
The Cruze and Civic have actually caught my attention now and then, and I'm thinking about checking out the Dart when it comes out...or, is it out already?
 
Other than sitting in a Cruze once at a GM show though, that's about as far as I've actually pursued it.
 
And, I have a gut feeling that if I went into the Dodge dealership looking for a Dart, I'd end up leaving with a Ram or Charger. Hey, RamCharger...they ought to bring that name back!

#24831 of 32000 Re: shopping small cars? [andre1969] by ateixeira

Jun 14, 2012 (6:25 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 13, 2012 1:51 pm)
Too bad we don't get the attractive wagon model. They should bring a diesel wagon - look at how many Jetta wagons are diesel (almost all?).
 
Saw a Verano on the road this AM, and I swear, I thought I read "Viagra".
 
Indeed, it's supposed to make the brand more youthful. Freudian slip?

#24832 of 32000 Re: shopping small cars? [andre1969] by steve_ HOST

Jun 14, 2012 (7:03 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 13, 2012 1:51 pm)
Dodge says the Dart will be available in Q2 2012. Supposedly started shipping near the end of May. So, any day now. Edmunds got a tester from Dodge. No idea if they have been spotted in the wild.
 
It tested a bit faster than the Cruze but some of the commenters over at IL think the Cruze will be tough competition for it.
 
2013 Dodge Dart Full Test (Inside Line)
 

 
And the Cruze:
 

#24833 of 32000 Re: shopping small cars? [steve_] by tjc78

Jun 14, 2012 (8:38 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Jun 14, 2012 7:03 am)
Is it me or does the Dart really look like the previous generation Elantra?

#24834 of 32000 Re: shopping small cars? [tjc78] by andre1969

Jun 14, 2012 (10:01 am)

Replying to: tjc78 (Jun 14, 2012 8:38 am)
Is it me or does the Dart really look like the previous generation Elantra?
 
From that angle, I think it definitely does. It sort of reminds me of a 2002 or so Elantra hatchback, just with mini-Charger taillights grafted on.
 
I think the Dart looks really good from the front to the B-pillar, but IMO starts to lose it a bit in the rear door area, and definitely loses points in the C-pillar/rump area, only to be somewhat salvaged by those taillights.

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