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#24789 of 32000 Re: Chevy V8 sedan [xrunner2]
Jun 08, 2012 (2:43 pm)
Evidently, the 4-cylinder F-30 BMW's are selling rather well...
Once you turn off the start/stop function, it's a nice riding car.
#24791 of 32000 Re: June 2012 recalls from Kia as recent as the year of GM's bankruptcy [uplanderguy]
Jun 08, 2012 (5:38 pm)
Brake pedals made of fiberglass that break.
Airbag seat sensors that crack and won't work.
Both of these sound like cost-cutting to the maximum and minimization of the quality of major, important things in the cars. Outrageous.
Makes me wonder where else they have cut costs and materials in a dangerous way.
#24792 of 32000 Re: June 2012 recalls from Kia as recent as the year of GM's bankruptcy [imidazol97]
Jun 09, 2012 (6:30 am)
Agreed, but let's all be honest here for a moment.
Cost cutting isn't anything new.
Ask former Pinto and Vega owners.
#24793 of 32000 Re: June 2012 recalls from Kia as recent as the year of GM's bankruptcy [busiris]
Jun 09, 2012 (6:33 am)
The Pinto (Ford) cost saving was long, long ago. These incidents from Kia and cost-cutting from other featured companies are more current. It all depends on whether the bean counters get caught short or not. Often good or new design ideas end up causing problems later don't display in short time road testing.
#24794 of 32000 New Chevy V8 will be SS
Jun 09, 2012 (10:10 am)
According to latest issue of Autoweek, the 2014 RWD Chevy V8 will share the platform of the next generation of Australia's Commodore Holden and will be built there. It will be called the SS and will be available in late 2013.
#24795 of 32000 Re: June 2012 recalls from Kia as recent as the year of GM's bankruptcy [imidazol97]
Jun 09, 2012 (11:09 am)
The Pinto (Ford) cost saving was long, long ago. These incidents from Kia and cost-cutting from other featured companies are more current.
Here's a current one from a "featured" company that recently went belly up.
No excuses for Kia or GM. Failure is failure.
Improper(CHEAP) Air Bag Sensor - Nov 2011
#24796 of 32000 Regal Upmarket or Failing?
Jun 09, 2012 (1:40 pm)
Last monthís sales results were overall fairly positive for Buick, however there was one glaring ugly spot: Regal. The brandís midsize sedan showed a 40 percent drop in sales year over year, suggesting the car is failing in the marketplace. Buick suggests, however, that the drop in sales is not a surprise as the car moves further upmarket.
YTD 2012 Buick Verano Sales = 11,578 (2,300/month avg.) Projected sales for 2012 = 30,000
2011 Regal Sales = 40,144
2012 Regal YTD Sales = 12,502 (2,500/month Avg.)
Projected 2012 sales = 30,012 or a 25% sales drop! Looks like Buick is competing against itself!
Only GM can call that a success!
Acura TSX 2011 Sales = 30,935
Acura TSX 2012 YTD Sales = 15,012 (3,002/month Average)
Projected 2012 Sales = 36,000
BMW 3-Series 2011 Sales = 94,371
BMW 3-Series 2012 YTD Sales = 40,022 (8,000/month Avg.)
Projected 2012 Sales = 96,000
Infiniti G 2011 Sales = 58,246
Infinit G 2012 YTD Sales = 23,473 (4,695/month Avg.)
Projected 2012 Sales = 56,338
Acura, Infiniti or BMW need not worry about the Regal in the least.
#24797 of 32000 Re: June 2012 recalls from Kia as recent as the year of GM's bankruptcy [imidazol97]
Jun 09, 2012 (1:59 pm)
I agree. I mentioned the Pinto & Vega only to show this behavior is nothing new.
Here's another , much more recent example. Chrysler calls it "weight reduction", but we a ll know its "costs" reduction.
BMW got snagged recently with bad battery cables. As I said, they all do it.
1 or 2 dollars per car isn't much, until you are looking at runs in the hundreds of thousands. It's hard to resist saving a couple million $$$ here and there.
All manufacturers do it, all the time. Sometimes they get lucky, sometimes not.
#24798 of 32000 Re: June 2012 recalls from Kia as recent as the year of GM's bankruptcy [busiris]
Jun 09, 2012 (3:24 pm)
I thought because circle brought it up, it was a current recall, but it is seven months old and less than one-half the number of units involved in the current Kia recalls (plural).
Sounds like 'old Kia' to me.
Still wish GM wouldn't have exported G8's from Australia but would've built them here, for a number of common-sense reasons.