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#24759 of 32000 Re: Volt Sales better than Corvette!!!! [tjc78] by anythngbutgm

Jun 05, 2012 (10:49 am)

Replying to: tjc78 (Jun 05, 2012 9:29 am)
Half the cars in that test shouldn't have even been there...
 
328i, Infiniti G37, C-class...
 
Buick's mission for the Regal is cloudy to say the least. Obesity, a lackluster engine lineup, and lack of AWD partners well with their next-to-nil marketing efforts...
 
GM has completely dropped the ball with this model and failed to give their so called "Sport Sedan" the reflexes and performance it needs to go up against the class stalwarts. Although, part of the blame should be put on the magazines for making such an absurd comparison, GM wants to claim the Regal as a valid alternative, then they are going to have to work harder to bring their entry up to snuff.
 
But part of me also believes if they did so, they would risk crowding own their cohorts over at Cadillac who are trying to release their own 3-series wannabe. Which is probably why the Regal has been nutured so much from it's Opel counterpart...
 
Oh ya, and meanwhile, they have created a model that doesn't fit the blue hair image that Buick has built... Stick to building cars for cruising the piggly wiggly GM, Buick's so called "rich" performance history is just that...
 
History.
 
IMO, Buick trying to recapture the glory days of the GNX is only going to further damage whatever steps Cadillac is trying to take to claim its own spot in the luxury performance arena...
 
BTW, what do you guys care anyways? It's an import...

#24760 of 32000 Re: Volt Sales better than Corvette!!!! [anythngbutgm] by fintail

Jun 05, 2012 (10:48 am)

Replying to: anythngbutgm (Jun 05, 2012 10:49 am)
I don't get the Regal either. It is not a premium car in the home market, why would it be here? Previous attempts at making a normal European car a premium car here (Merkur and Catera) failed, I can't see how this will be different. In Germany, a Regal (Opel Insignia) falls in the market kind of where an Impala does here. It does not compete with the premium labels.

#24761 of 32000 Re: Volt Sales better than Corvette!!!! [fintail] by anythngbutgm

Jun 05, 2012 (10:56 am)

Replying to: fintail (Jun 05, 2012 10:48 am)
Well the Regal was suppoed to be the next Saturn Aura but due to BK, Saturn got the boot so I'm thinking that plans were too far along to cancel bringing it over to the states so they just looked at their remaining brands and said "Well boyz, what do you think about trying it out as a Buick?"
 
And why not I guess. Pontiac was killed off, Saturn was toast and Cadillac surely doesn't need another front drive car nor would I bet they'd risk a case of "Catera 2.0"...
 
Plus, outside of the Lambda rebadge, there isn't a Buick in the stable that can't trace it's roots to Germany (Or Korea, or China...) so the Regal is a natural fit.

#24762 of 32000 Re: GM Sales up 11% [uplanderguy] by fintail

Jun 05, 2012 (11:01 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jun 05, 2012 3:46 am)
Greed is good and corporations are people too, right? Friend?
 
Examining worker to executive compensation trends over the past 30 or so years might unearth some problems of what ails us.

#24763 of 32000 Re: Volt Sales better than Corvette!!!! [anythngbutgm] by fintail

Jun 05, 2012 (11:30 am)

Replying to: anythngbutgm (Jun 05, 2012 10:56 am)
I think it's a decent car stuck in an odd position. Would have made a much better Pontiac or Saturn. I rented a standard one (but still well equipped - leather roof etc) and although it had a few drawbacks, it was a nice car - seeing them blown out for like 22K at the end of the year seems like good value.

#24764 of 32000 Re: Volt Sales better than Corvette!!!! [tjc78] by busiris

Jun 05, 2012 (12:18 pm)

Replying to: tjc78 (Jun 05, 2012 10:38 am)
I agree, in tat it seemed a bit like comparing your high school homecoming queen to a Victoria Secret runway model. They are both female, young, etc... , but in different classes.
 
On the 50K+ 328, the car comes available with a lot of features not seen on many cars in its category, such as heads-up display.
 
A very nice 328 can be had for much less that $50K.

#24765 of 32000 Re: Volt Sales better than Corvette!!!! [busiris] by tjc78

Jun 05, 2012 (12:44 pm)

Replying to: busiris (Jun 05, 2012 12:18 pm)
\, such as heads-up display.
 
My lowly 40K LaCrosse has that
 
I see your point, BMW has some costly options that can spike up the price really quickly.

#24766 of 32000 Re: Volt Sales better than Corvette!!!! [tjc78] by andre1969

Jun 05, 2012 (12:58 pm)

Replying to: tjc78 (Jun 05, 2012 12:44 pm)
My lowly 40K LaCrosse has that
 
Heck, my going-on-thirteen-years-old Park Ave has that!

#24767 of 32000 Re: Volt Sales better than Corvette!!!! [andre1969] by tjc78

Jun 05, 2012 (1:47 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 05, 2012 12:58 pm)
The first car I ever drove with it was my buddy's 95 Grand Prix GTP. I thought it was a really cool feature. 17 years later I feel the same way!

#24768 of 32000 Re: Volt Sales better than Corvette!!!! [fintail] by imidazol97

Jun 05, 2012 (1:51 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Jun 05, 2012 10:48 am)
>I don't get the Regal either. It is not a premium car in the home market
 
The Regal has been a placeholder while the general realignment of Buick has been occurring. The lower performance engine is there in a cheaper to build model to give a low price for the Buick Division for entry buyers.
 
Now that Verano has taken the place as a lower cost Buick, the accoutrements of the Regal will move upscale such as no cloth seat version and move to better powered models other than a tip-of-the-hat to the electric motor assist model which will be priced equal the turbo model.
 
The glass is half full.

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