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#24638 of 32000 Re: No Other Way? Ha! [andre1969]
May 24, 2012 (7:45 am)
Bingo, zig when the market zags.
A month ago hybrids were commanding full MSRP. I think today you're in a much better position to negotiate.
Bad timing for the Malibu Eco, since they launched the mild hybrid only, and now no one will care.
#24639 of 32000 Re: GM bailout & its loyalty to the USA [euphonium]
May 24, 2012 (9:39 am)
So, what's your point here?
China is a huge automotive market, and if you want to do business in a foreign country, regardless of type of government, you play by their rules...or you don't do business there.
China isn't the only country with strict rules and regulations on % of ownership, etc.
7 out of 10 cars built offshore? What's the sales ratio domestic .vs. foreign market?
BMW builds every X3, X5 and X6 in SC. They sell them worldwide. Is that bad for Germany?
Would you rather have GM go bust and not repay the taxpayer, but do all it's manufacturing stateside (until it goes under) or make a profit and repay its obligations to the government?
#24640 of 32000 Re: No Other Way? Ha! [circlew]
May 24, 2012 (12:18 pm)
Ford just sent me a letter saying they want to buy back my 2005 Grand Marquis LS as an incentive to buy a new Ford product. I'd consider it if Ford had ANYTHING I remotely desire. The dummies axed the three of their vehicles that were on my car-shopping A-list. Too bad! Let me know when the 2013 Lincoln Town Car arrives!
#24641 of 32000 Re: No Other Way? Ha! [lemko]
May 24, 2012 (1:24 pm)
New Fusion does nothing for you?
I dunno, man, Ford has a pretty strong lineup now...but you like big boats, right? Taurus SHO doesn't make the heart rate go up?
#24643 of 32000 Chevy Traverse rental wrapup
May 24, 2012 (1:56 pm)
I was in NC for 4 days driving a rental Traverse. Here are my thoughts - keep in mind I've not seen the different interiors of its various siblings.
- Solid vehicle to drive
- Refined engine except a little raspy on hard acceleration
- Good seating position
- Significant amenities in our vehicle (trip computer, bluetooth, steering wheel controls, radio stays on until door is opened, etc.
Not as good:
- Mileage was what I'd call fair to poor (18-19), but I guess what I'd expect for AWD and huge wheels
- Lots of size for the amount of interior space in the cargo area IMHO (very high floor)
- Visibility not so good
- Wide turning circle
- I don't see anything really compelling about this vehicle. It's heavy, it doesn't get very good mileage, and it doesn't have enough cargo area for its size and lower mileage. I guess I'm too used to a Honda minivan where I get 23 mpg instead of 18, with more cargo space. But the Honda is not quite as solid and of course you don't have AWD on the Honda. It's a decent vehicle, just not that great IMHO. The only thing I think would make it compelling is if you need the AWD or want to tow something.
The Traverse is not like a disaster or anything, it's just that I'd really like to see GM blow it out of the park rather than bat .230 like the middle of the pack.
#24644 of 32000 Re: Chevy Traverse rental wrapup [tlong]
May 24, 2012 (1:59 pm)
That is the cheapest version of the Lambda platform, FWIW.
#24645 of 32000 Re: No Other Way? Ha! [ateixeira]
May 24, 2012 (2:11 pm)
I'm really curious to see the new Fusion. I like the pics I've seen so far. I know it's the Aston Martin look they're going for, but I actually see a bit of '57-59 Chrysler 300 Letter Series in there!
I think Ford's lineup looks really good now EXCEPT for big cars. But then, there really isn't a market anymore for big (or even semi-big) cars, so we can't really blame them, I guess.
I haven't driven one yet, only sat in them, but my impression with the Taurus is that, if this makes sense, it's bulky without really being big. It's really not that roomy inside, although it has a big trunk. Then, there's just something about the Taurus's styling I don't like. Hard to explain. It's not ugly, but it just doesn't do anything for me.
If you want a big car, I think these days, Chrysler's the one to go for, either a Charger or 300. Nice, lanky 120" wheelbase. The last time a Chrysler car topped that was 1978!
Or, wait until the redone Impala and Caddy XTS come out.
I wonder how the redone Fusion and the forthcoming Dart will compare to each other? I know one's supposed to be a midsize and the other a compact, but from the specs I've seen, the Dart isn't that small.
#24646 of 32000 Re: Malibu Eco Recall [ateixeira]
May 24, 2012 (4:55 pm)
Not so bad for the Malibu...only 4000 units or so...
Not like the Jeep Wrangler fire recall...
#24647 of 32000 Re: No Other Way? Ha! [ateixeira]
May 24, 2012 (4:58 pm)
The only experience I have had with a 2011 Fusion was a rental, and the drivers seat was the most uncomfortable seat I can remember sitting in over the last 25 years. My wife had the same complaint.
I would definitely like to try one at a dealership before ruling it out, if I was interested in purchasing one. I learned long ago not to base judgments solely on a rental experience.
The up side for the rental company is that bad seating helps keep the mileage down...