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#24050 of 32000 Re: I'm sure this is a scientific study! [busiris]
by circlew
Apr 25, 2012 (3:55 am)
When fuel prices skyrocketed, many wanted economy AND features, and the move towards a smaller luxury vehicle was introduced.
Flash forward to today. Ditto.
Unfortunately, GM is still behind the rest delivering BUT improving as fast as a giant battleship with a huge hole in it can change course!
Regards,
OW
#24051 of 32000 Re: I'm sure this is a scientific study! [uplanderguy]
by lemko
Apr 25, 2012 (6:36 am)
Those first-gen Sevilles are still gorgeous! They've aged very well.
#24052 of 32000 Re: I'm sure this is a scientific study! [uplanderguy]
by ateixeira
Apr 25, 2012 (11:25 am)
I totally agree, especially about GM doing better differentiation vs. Lincoln.
Ford's doing great, so you have to wonder why even bother if Lincolns even look the same?
I don't even like the new look, though at least it's more distinctive than before. Plus the prototype shorted out and had smoke pouring from the door at the auto show - not a good start.
#24053 of 32000 Re: 210,000 Mile Neon [lemko]
by andres3
Apr 25, 2012 (7:34 pm)
My friend just totaled the purplish 1995 Neon he purchased new 17 years ago this past Thursday.
210K on a Neon... that's gotta be a world record, he should call Guiness! Maybe the brakes were bad and that caused the accident?
#24054 of 32000 Re: I'm sure this is a scientific study! [circlew]
by uplanderguy
Apr 26, 2012 (9:01 am)
This reminds me of Caddy now stating they are the New Standard of the World.
We've discussed this before, ad nauseum, but that's a slogan they've used for decades. Why wouldn't they continue to use it? If you ever had a marketing course in college, it's called 'puffing'.
If Chevrolet said "Building a Better Way to See the USA" (as they did in the seventies), if you disagreed, would you say they should stop using that slogan? Of course not. That'd be ridiculous.
"Standard of the World" is a slogan and nothing more.
I did recently see a pop-up for the SRX with a quote from Jalopnik stating "Trust us when we say this is a Lexus-beater".
I still wouldn't buy one since it's assembled in Mexico, but call me old-fashioned.
#24055 of 32000 Re: I'm sure this is a scientific study! [busiris]
by uplanderguy
Apr 26, 2012 (9:16 am)
Busiris, the '72 Luxury LeMans was a sharp car IMHO, although the skirts were a bit much...same on the '73. Nice interior and the cars are pretty rare to see today, compared to other LeMans and midsize Pontiac models of those years.
I never understood why the emblems on them spelled out "LML" instead of "LLM"!
I did like on the '73, how it was a luxury model but it still had the big triangular quarter windows which I liked, instead of Pontiac finding the need to put an opera window there like they did on later years.
I can't think if your email mentioned this or not, and I'm too lazy to check, but when I think of a '72 Luxury LeMans, I immediately think of that light green metallic they used that year.
#24056 of 32000 Re: I'm sure this is a scientific study! [uplanderguy]
by andre1969
Apr 26, 2012 (10:27 am)
I never understood why the emblems on them spelled out "LML" instead of "LLM"!
They probably do it for symmetry, as they can make the "M" sort of a heavy anchor point in the middle, and then over-stylize the other two letters to make the whole thing look like a work of art basking in its full 70's glory.
FWIW, they did the same thing with the Grand LeMans, with a "GML" badge. My '76 has it in the opera windows, and also in the door panels. None of the online pics of my car are hi-res enough to show it off, but here's a pic from the 1978 brochure, which should give you an idea.
#24058 of 32000 Re: I'm sure this is a scientific study! [uplanderguy]
by circlew
Apr 26, 2012 (12:17 pm)
"Standard of the World" is a slogan and nothing more.
Cadillac says your dead wrong!
This is from Cadillac.com:
AWARDS AND ACCOLADES
Cadillac is the “New Standard of the World.” This is more than a statement. It’s a fact recognized by discerning industry experts who continually award Cadillac the highest honors and bold acclaim. Explore our awards and accolades below.
Hardly just "puff", more like arrogance!
Regards,
OW
#24059 of 32000 Re: I'm sure this is a scientific study! [circlew]
by ateixeira
Apr 26, 2012 (12:19 pm)
The German lux makes actually name their cars this way...
3 series - means 30% of Cadillac's level
5 series - means 50%
7 series - means 70% (pretty good, close to Cadillac)
and so no.