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#23798 of 32000 Re: '13 Malibu [berri]
by uplanderguy
Apr 14, 2012 (9:56 am)
Anybody besides me (who'll admit it here) think Ford's new open-mouth look up front is...meh?
I saw a Five-Hundred on the Chevy dealer's used car lot this a.m. I think those cars were underrated. The looks were somewhat a blend of American and Euro, I think, I like the instrument panel, and they had a ton of room inside.
#23799 of 32000 Re: Volt sales highest ever for month! [imidazol97]
by xrunner2
Apr 14, 2012 (10:12 am)
one Volt owner, Jeff, noted that he has used just 23 gallons of gas in 13 months since purchasing his Volt. In that time, he's driven 13,500 miles – about 566 miles per gallon.
So, what kind of power plants served Jeff? Any with coal? What amount of coal was mined, transported and burned in power plant to serve his Volt's electricity hunger?
#23800 of 32000 Re: Buick Verano [steve_]
by busiris
Apr 14, 2012 (10:15 am)
It's not too difficult to find exceptions to any rule.
My brother has a working model old-style Kelvinator fridge with the compressed mounted on top of the unit.
Still, you don't see many of them around.
Wool carpet was known for long life as long as it was properly cared for, just like old suits made of mohair. Pet stains (urine) were all but impossible to remove from wool carpets.
A childhood friend's dad has tons of old working appliance type items, from wax-cone style phonographs to slot machines, and everything in between. As a child, I marveled at all the old pinball machines he had that still worked perfectly. He even had music juke-box "things" ... I don't know what they were called, that played music by playing the actual instruments, something like a player piano. Pop in a quarter and hear some classical music. IIRC, they ran off a vacuum system, which he replaced with a more modern style canister vacuum.
#23801 of 32000 Re: '13 Malibu [uplanderguy]
by xrunner2
Apr 14, 2012 (10:17 am)
Anybody besides me (who'll admit it here) think Ford's new open-mouth look up front is
Ungainly, awkward, but still way, way better then GM styling experiment, Aztek.
#23802 of 32000 Re: Volt sales highest ever for month! [xrunner2]
by busiris
Apr 14, 2012 (10:23 am)
That a good argument, and it certainly has some validity. Energy is still used, albeit in a different delivery system and form.
I see it a bit differently, though.
The electricity could also come from hydro or solar/wind sources.
The most important thing to me is that the Volt allows mobility in relative comfort on a greatly reduced consumption of a fuel that, while is easily transportable (gasoline), is also becoming increasingly more diffuse to produce.
No energy is free... Even solar requires the mining of certain materials, which adds cost.
Even hydrogen, the most abundant element, doesn't come without a cost.
I do think electrics make sense as long as they don't add load to the power grid at peak times. If we all go electric and insist on charging our Volts/Leafs from 9-5 then they don't make much sense at all.
#23803 of 32000 Re: '13 Malibu [xrunner2]
by busiris
Apr 14, 2012 (10:25 am)
Personally, I find the look on the front end of Lincoln products somewhat hideous. Far too much of an overstatement. That goes for Acura, too.
#23804 of 32000 Re: Sounds like someone doesn't know what they're saying [uplanderguy]
by circlew
Apr 14, 2012 (10:38 am)
So what do you attribute the surge in sales to ultimate consumers to, in the Volt?
#1 - News that Chevy Volt drivers could use California’s HOV lanes, an attractive leasing option in California.
#2 - Gas prices keep rising.
#3 - Chevy Sales grew 16.3% (while Cadillac sales were down 13.4% and Buick was down 16.3% , which was the worst among major brands operating normally in the US). Chevy has the highest number of efficient vehicles in GM. More volume in Chevy translates to higher Volt sales and the rebates help quite a bit.
Regards,
OW
#23805 of 32000 Re: '13 Malibu [uplanderguy]
by circlew
Apr 14, 2012 (10:40 am)
I like the 2013 Fusion, open mouth and all!
Regards,
OW
#23806 of 32000 Re: Buick Verano [busiris]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Apr 14, 2012 (11:44 am)
It's not too difficult to find exceptions to any rule.
I'm into textiles so I felt (ahem) that I had to stick up for the wool stuff.
I had a pinball machine back in the 70s and would enjoy another one. Got a kick out of playing a pinball game on my wife's iPad (can bump and tilt it), but I had to quit after my thumb started acting up after about 40 hours.
Like a lot of old cars, lots of that old stuff still works, but most is better left to the museum corner. Tail lights and starters were once innovations, but what's GM got coming around the corner?
#23807 of 32000 Re: '13 Malibu [xrunner2]
by uplanderguy
Apr 14, 2012 (12:29 pm)
Anybody besides me (who'll admit it here) think Ford's new open-mouth look up front is
Ungainly, awkward, but still way, way better then GM styling experiment, Aztek.
That was then. This is now. Go Mexico!