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Re: [dieselone] by gagrice
Nov 30, 2008 (8:28 am)
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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 30, 2008 8:20 am)

Still a lot of RVs on the road regardless of what you read in the paper.
 
You got that right. Wednesday evening it was a steady stream of motor homes with dune buggy trailers and toy haulers going out Interstate 8 to the desert, to play for the long weekend. Last I read something like 50,000 dune buggies are out on any given weekend. The cheap gas prices came just at the right time for desert types.
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Re: [bpizzuti] by plekto
Nov 30, 2008 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Nov 30, 2008 3:01 am)

They need to buy Dodge. Stick that Cumins diesel in the Suburban and presto. 25mpg mega-hauler.
 
GM trucks should be heavy duty vehicles, the Suburban, the 1500/2500, and the cargo van of course. Three models. Because, that's all they really need and all they really sell in large numbers to individuals. If you need a truck for work, you need a big thing most likely. Crap like the Canyon, which they literally can't sell and I've seen 2007 models STILL on the lot in Los Angeles, no less(not middle of nowhere, Montana) - it just needs to go and the factory be used for something else.
 
And yuppie pseudo SUVs and crossovers and so on, ignore entirely. Let other companies deal with it, because nobody is buying GM crosssovers or SUVs. Note - I don't consider the Suburban a "SUV" - it's a full size 9 passenger truck. SUVs are those little things like the RAV-4 and the crud Volvo is making(which also isn't selling, amazingly. Who would have guessed?)
 
Oh - and bring back the manual in the 1500. Since most people who buy commercial vehicles pre-order them, it's a simple option to add back on the order sheet.(3-5% of your sales is STILL 3-5% and every bit helps right now)
 
Lastly, if something new comes out, don't wait until the next year/cycle to get it out to market. WV is soon to get their Rabbit TDI over here and they aren't waiting 6 extra months. There is already a huge waiting list. 6 more months of sales is just that much more money in their pockets at a time when everyone needs it.
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Re: [plekto] by tlong
Nov 30, 2008 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: plekto (Nov 30, 2008 11:17 am)

nobody is buying GM crosssovers or SUVs
 
I thought the quadruplets Acadia, Enclave...etc. were selling pretty well.
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Re: Age discrimination [bpizzuti] by lemko
Nov 30, 2008 (3:40 pm)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Nov 29, 2008 9:35 am)

True. I bought my first new Cadillac when I was 24, another one when I was 28, another when I was 36, and again when I was 42.
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Re: [tlong] by 62vetteefp
Nov 30, 2008 (5:30 pm)
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Replying to: tlong (Nov 30, 2008 11:57 am)

GM ONLY sold 40,000 SUV's/CUV's in October.
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by m4d_cow
Nov 30, 2008 (10:09 pm)
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err, how many of those sales are CUVs? and how many SUVs? I still think the Suburban will tank soon, keep no more than swb Tahoe if they must.
Sure gas is cheaper now, but for how long??????
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Re: [62vetteefp] by joshuag
Nov 30, 2008 (10:15 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Nov 30, 2008 5:30 pm)

You say only 40,000 suv' s. Thats a huge number isn't it? Thats a total of almost half a million a year. Especially with gas prices taking a dive they will probably sell double that amount this month, that's if anyone can get qualified for a loan.
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Re: [joshuag] by torque_r
Nov 30, 2008 (11:23 pm)
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Replying to: joshuag (Nov 30, 2008 10:15 pm)

You say only 40,000 suv' s. Thats a huge number isn't it? Thats a total of almost half a million a year. Especially with gas prices taking a dive they will probably sell double that amount this month, that's if anyone can get qualified for a loan.
 
That's not a huge number, if you consider that the Explorer alone used to sell 40,000 or more a month. Take that 40,000 and divide it by 19 SUV/CUV models and you get an average of 2,100 units per model. And that's really poor.
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Re: [torque_r] by 62vetteefp
Dec 01, 2008 (3:53 am)
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Replying to: torque_r (Nov 30, 2008 11:23 pm)

The days of huge sales of SUV's is probably gone for awhile but they will come back, maybe skewed to the slightly different form of CUV's. Issue today is that few are buying anything due to fear of our economy and the sales of high priced items ($50k+ SUV's and lux cars) has really taken a nose dive. 75% drop on Subs and Tahoes last month. But again that is temporary due to high ticket sales drop.
 
Again there is a large market for Subs/Tahoes, enough to keep at least two plants going once we get past this economy.
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Re: [62vetteefp] by lemko
Dec 01, 2008 (6:29 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Nov 30, 2008 5:30 pm)

My best friend just bought a new Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid in September. I thought he was nuts due to the insane fuel prices, but he's claiming it gets 20 MPG city which is pretty awesome for a vehicle so big it makes my DTS look like a Civic in comparison.

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