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#23571 of 32000 Re: Buick Verano [berri] by dieselone

Apr 09, 2012 (1:54 pm)

Replying to: berri (Apr 09, 2012 1:46 pm)
It is made in the same Chicago plant as your Taurus and didn't seem all that tightly built and it already had a rattle.
 
Yeah, my wife's Taurus turned 1 and passed 23k miles last month. It's starting to creak and rattle in traditional Detroit fashion. I think part of the problem is the suspension is particular stiff. It's an SE model, so I don't know if the higher trim models have more forgiving spring rates and shock damping. It rides far firmer than the Grand Prix she had.

#23572 of 32000 Gaps or assembly adjustment? by imidazol97

Apr 09, 2012 (2:27 pm)


 
Link to slide show
  
In the slides, I wonder if the silver car is the one that WSJ had access to test. Tester says only the gaps were erratic. The showroom car I looked at was great on gap tightness. If there were a gap problem, he would have added pictures of the excessive gap. I don't see that in the slide show.
 
Tester still notes the reference point was not used for the right fender. As I said before, i wonder if an early version had the unibody slightly off as a preproduction sample.
 
In the video, the guy says, "Yes, it's a really nice car," when asked if he loved the car. He also says he would buy it.

#23573 of 32000 Re: Buick Verano [anythngbutgm] by uplanderguy

Apr 09, 2012 (3:15 pm)

Replying to: anythngbutgm (Apr 09, 2012 12:58 pm)
Boy, anything, your credit cards are clearly much thinner than what I have in my wallet.

#23575 of 32000 Re: Buick Verano [dieselone] by uplanderguy

Apr 09, 2012 (3:21 pm)

Replying to: dieselone (Apr 09, 2012 12:48 pm)
Less than 1/6 inch="slapped together by drunks"? Are you one of those guys who goes through life asking to see the manager?

#23576 of 32000 Re: Buick Verano [andre1969] by uplanderguy

Apr 09, 2012 (3:24 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 09, 2012 1:46 pm)
1/4 inch gap is bigger than 3/16 inch.

#23577 of 32000 Re: Buick Verano [uplanderguy] by dieselone

Apr 09, 2012 (3:31 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Apr 09, 2012 3:21 pm)
Are you one of those guys who goes through life asking to see the manager?
 
LOL, nope, If I don't like a product or service I receive, I generally go elsewhere.

#23578 of 32000 Re: Buick Verano [uplanderguy] by plekto

Apr 09, 2012 (4:02 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Apr 09, 2012 3:21 pm)
My Buick Park Avenue has roughly 4mm gaps in many places and it was considered to be extremely well built.
 
This reminds me why auto reviews all need to be taken with a huge amount of cynicism. If it's slower than 6 seconds, oh my god, it's crap. If the doors have 1mm too much of a gap, it's crap. If we rev the engine to death like it is never driven by anyone in its intended market population and it makes noise, well, it's a box full of rocks and is crap. If the nav system is the wrong color of blue, well, it's also crap.
 
On and on... I guess if you spent all day testing and fantasizing about exotic cars and hot rods and were forced to have to drive a plebeian's car, well, you'd think that it was a chore.
 
Yet the Cruise/Verano is a very nice car, overall. Certainly better than GM's past small cars. But that's never factored in, is it. Or the fact that to get those 6 second drag strip times, you need a very fuel-hungry engine, which then everyone would of course moan about it getting poor MPG and say it's crap for that.
 
I can live with 8 or even 12 second 0-60 times if it means I don't end up averaging 20mpg in real-world driving here in Los Angeles. I consistently get 5-6mpg worse in city driving here than EPA numbers. Traffic maybe moves at 50mph on the highway on a good day, and closer to 30 on the city streets. There's always a moron in front of you sight-seeing of trolling for a parking spot, and some addled 80 year old who can't hardly peer over their steering wheel in your way.
 
My top priorities are that it starts, stops, and doesn't make my rear end feel like I've been sitting on a stone slab after two hours of this every day. Oh, and a decent sound system to drown out the bums who are pan-handling at the freeway exits.

#23579 of 32000 Re: Buick Verano [plekto] by imidazol97

Apr 09, 2012 (4:09 pm)

Replying to: plekto (Apr 09, 2012 4:02 pm)
>This reminds me why auto reviews all need to be taken with a huge amount of cynicism. If it's slower than 6 seconds, oh my god, it's crap. If the doors have 1mm too much of a gap, it's crap. If we rev the engine to death like it is never driven by anyone in its intended market population and it makes noise, well, it's a box full of rocks and is crap. If the nav system is the wrong color of blue, well, it's also crap.
 
Exactly. There's one way to test cars that are for the people who drive like heck and want to hear the motor roar and accelerate like a Mustang just kicked in the rear.
  
>On and on... I guess if you spent all day testing and fantasizing about exotic cars and hot rods and were forced to have to drive a plebeian's car, well, you'd think that it was a chore.
 
The tester says in the video that he is spoiled. He also indicates often that the car was built for the Chinese market. He says something about they want glitzy, glittery cars. And he peppers those kinds of adjectives throughout the review. If I had hiim as a judge in court, I'd ask for a change of venue. He doesn't show that he's able to be impartial.
  
>Yet the Cruise/Verano is a very nice car, overall. Certainly better than GM's past small cars.
 
Exactly. If someone doesn't want to buy a Verano because a picky, affected reviewer says he likes it but it's not up to the ultimate best of all reviewed that he loves the most, then they can not buy it and just quietly pedal on down the street.

#23580 of 32000 Re: Buick Verano [dieselone] by uplanderguy

Apr 09, 2012 (4:25 pm)

Replying to: dieselone (Apr 09, 2012 1:54 pm)
dieselone, when the 'new' Taurus came out, I liked the styling a lot, although it did feel a little tight inside for a car that size outside. After a year or two, though, I think they're looking rather 'chunky'.

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