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Re: Pontiac, Saab, Saturn [gagrice] by cooterbfd
Nov 29, 2008 (1:23 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 29, 2008 7:06 am)

For '09 (the test was an '08), I believe ALL lambdas get the 288 hp version. Rumor had it that the Enclave would get the 5.3 V-8, but I think $4 gas took care of that. Good thing is, if it can fit the V-8, then it can fit the 4.5 Duramax.
 
I can't see why they would complain about the Enclaves fuel econ. when the Accord's wasn't much better.
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Re: What Buick needs to do... [carnaught] by iwant12
Nov 29, 2008 (2:10 pm)
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Replying to: carnaught (Nov 29, 2008 9:39 am)

It would be nice to see them bring back the Grand National, perhaps on the new Camaro chassis (heck, even with a blown 3.6 DI). I might even go for something like that.
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Re: What Buick needs to do... [iwant12] by carnaught
Nov 29, 2008 (2:50 pm)
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Replying to: iwant12 (Nov 29, 2008 2:10 pm)

It would be nice to see them bring back the Grand National, perhaps on the new Camaro chassis (heck, even with a blown 3.6 DI). I might even go for something like that.
 
Sure, and about the time it passed R&D, it would be just in time for another major hike in oil and therefore gasoline prices (LOL).
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Re: Pontiac, Saab, Saturn [62vetteefp] by bumpy
Nov 29, 2008 (3:59 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Nov 29, 2008 5:13 am)

the average age of a Buick shopper last year was 55.2 years old
 
Buick shoppers might average out to 55, but the ones who actually sign on the dotted line are well into their 60s.
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Re: Pontiac, Saab, Saturn [cooterbfd] by bumpy
Nov 29, 2008 (4:09 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 29, 2008 1:23 pm)

Good thing is, if it can fit the V-8, then it can fit the 4.5 Duramax.
 
The engine might fit, but GM doesn't have an FWD tranny that can handle the torque.
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Re: Pontiac, Saab, Saturn [bumpy] by cooterbfd
Nov 29, 2008 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Nov 29, 2008 3:59 pm)

No, that means they bought them.
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Re: Pontiac, Saab, Saturn [cooterbfd] by andre1969
Nov 29, 2008 (4:14 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 29, 2008 4:10 pm)

Well, when Hertz, Avis, Rent-A-Wreck, etc buys a Buick, how do they get factored into the average buyer age?
 
Sorry, couldn't resist. And from what I've heard, Buick has actually been trying to get out of the habit of flooding the rental fleets.
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Re: Pontiac, Saab, Saturn [andre1969] by 62vetteefp
Nov 29, 2008 (6:24 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 29, 2008 4:14 pm)

"Well, when Hertz, Avis, Rent-A-Wreck, etc buys a Buick, how do they get factored into the average buyer age? "
 
Very good point. The sales are retail only so if the sedans are 1/2 fleet then that really changes my calcs but in the end the average buyer for Buick retail is still 55. Fleet sales of Buick is way down but surely who knows with what has been happening lately. Perhaps the rentals are not even buying now due to lack of credit?
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Re: [m4d_cow] by 62vetteefp
Nov 29, 2008 (6:31 pm)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Nov 29, 2008 11:41 am)

"Kill all incompetent models. That means trash cars like Monte Carlo, Suburban and Equinox goes, as well as SRX, STS and XLR. Kill Hummer H3, Hummer fashionists expect Hummers to be big, tough and bad, the H3 doesnt deliver such image. "
 
Suburban incompetent? What are you talking about? One of the best vehicles on the market if you need a real hauler.
 
Monte Carlo has been gone a couple years now.
 
SRX was a great vehicle but just never had a real segment with volume. C&D 10 best vehicle. It is gone though with a more traditional SUV/CUV type vehicle replacing it.
 
Hummer is up for sale and will be gone soon.
 
"Traverse's 14 mpg will scare buyers off faster than Osama in downtown NY,"
Traverse will sell like mad as do the rest of the Lambdas.
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Re: What Buick needs to do... [carnaught] by iwant12
Nov 29, 2008 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: carnaught (Nov 29, 2008 2:50 pm)

Sadly, carnaught, you are right.

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