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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 29, 2008 9:13 am) |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 29, 2008 6:15 am)
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....is to make the car line appeal to someone like me. After being a satisfied Buick owner times two in the past, they make nothing currently that I have any interest in. As with myself and many others, unlike some of you, they are not winning me over to be a repeat customer. They also need to rework their logo and cease using that oval grill; i.e., change their image. Their newer cars look just like their older Century/Regals. That was then, this is now. As Obama would say, the current line of thinking and system is not working; it is a failed policy (except maybe in China). |
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Replying to: carnaught (Nov 29, 2008 9:39 am) >As Obama would say, the current line of thinking and system is not working; it is a failed policy So why is he recycling all the old government folks from Clinton's cabinet and Carter's cabinet? Does Obama think the same people are going to give a different result now? Didn't he run on "change"? >rework their logo and cease using that oval grill; i.e., rework and change their image. Their newer cars look just like their older Century/Regals. I don't see that's needed. Could end up looking like Accord or Camry designs--odd. |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 29, 2008 9:54 am) Maybe that's part of what they need to do to be more successful. |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 29, 2008 9:54 am) I don't see that's needed. Could end up looking like Accord or Camry designs--odd. Actually, I don't mind the style of my Dad's '03 Regal. I think it's handsome, in its conservative sort of way. My biggest complaints about the car are the the cramped back seat, interior, exterior fit and finish, and the handling, in no particular order. Well, the cramped back seat you can't really do anything about, as it's just a fault of the W-body, and you can't really do anything about it without either a complete redesign, or lengthening the car in the back seat area. But, they've always been tight back there, right from the first 4-door GM10's back in 1990. A cramped back seat is really only a problem though if you're tall and regularly have back seat passengers. If you're more average in height, or rarely need to use the back seat, it's not such a big deal. With the interior and fit and finish, I think GM has come a long way with the LaCrosse, compared to the Century/Regal. The body panel gaps are much tighter, and the parts line up much better, both inside and out. They've also improved the quality and feel of the interior components. Now maybe some people would still prefer an Accord or Camry, but IMO, these two have fallen victim to cost cutting. Lots more hard plastic in there than there used to be. As for handling, I've never driven a LaCrosse, so I don't know how it handles. My Dad's Regal is nothing to write home about in handling...to me it feels about like my '76 LeMans. However, need to point out that the Regal is just a base LS model. It has 15x6 wheels, and the tires are 70-series, but can't remember if they're 205 or 215's. Meanwhile, my LeMans is wider 15x7 rims, 225/70-R15 tires, and somewhere along its life got the suspension beefed up a bit. So it probably handles better than it did when it rolled off the assembly line (rides rougher, too). With the Regal, you could get upgraded wheels and tires if the handling really bothered you. And I imagine that a base LaCrosse probably starts you off with 16" rims these days and a tire that's either a 65 or 60-series. I actually prefer the style of my Dad's '03 Regal to the current LaCrosse! I like the more distinctive full-width taillights, the larger window area, and the front-end, which seems to have less overhang. If you could take the '03 Regal and give it the LaCrosse interior and up-to-date fit and finish, I'd be happy with it.
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| It brings back memories of the big Buick tuna boats of the 1950s with the portholes in the fenders or hood. The biggest problem was their DynaFlow transmission. It was inferior to the Olds and Pontiac Hydramatic. My dad hated Buicks & loved Pontiacs so I hated Buicks and went for Pontiac. Though I have only owned one, my first car a 1947 Pontiac convertible. Chevy automatics were also horrible in the 1950s. I think they were called PowerGlide. Same 2 speed as the Buick DynaFLow. All was not rosy for GM in the 1950s. Most of the cars I owned back then, I would carry a two gallon can of Raylube in the trunk as they used about as much oil as they did gas. | |
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 29, 2008 10:24 am) Now of course I'm old enough that Buick would like to market to someone else but that's another story. They strike me as awfully close to what they want and likely need to be. They've been reliable over a long haul and have fixed up the interiors.
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Replying to: fezo (Nov 29, 2008 11:11 am) i had a Buick once - a 56 Special that was my toy. It was the eternal $600 car. I bought it for that in the early 70s and tracked the next three sales and they were all $600. Had a good time with it. My grandfather had a great old 49 Buick and dad later picked up a 55 taht we liked a lot. Dad bought a lot of cheap cars when I was a kid. That Buick was the best of the lot. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 28, 2008 8:16 pm)
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