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Replying to: fintail (Nov 08, 2008 3:50 pm) As for the UAW, is it really their wages or is it their restrictive work rules and union contracts that pay them most of their salary while they are laid off? I'm not sure they are overpaid for the physically hard work they do as much as they incur too much overhead. Regardless, Detroit's failures are due to management making dumb decisions on labor contracts, products, vendors and engineering quality tradeoffs. The workers are victims just like the customers. Now the taxpayers will be too.
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Replying to: berri (Nov 08, 2008 5:49 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Nov 08, 2008 3:50 pm) If that makes customers keep coming back for their transportation needs in today's reality, the business model is strong. If it doesn't and costs exceed profits, the business model is doomed. So here we are with a domestic industry that is broken but a long time coming. This just didn't happen in the last year when gasoline spiked. Now, we bail them out? Regards, OW
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Replying to: berri (Nov 08, 2008 5:49 pm) The difference now is the taxpayers were once customers but now will just foot the bill to add $$$ to a failing industry. Hopefully, if the metrics are set correctly the downsizing, restructuring and return to profitability will be swift. That means somehow, the opportunity that is on hand will eventually get the customers to come back. The reality is the workers are always victims from failed management. Bailout or bankruptcy, things need to move fast. Use the money to lift the costs of pensions and benefit costs immediately. Discontinue failed products. Rebuild in a structure that supports efficiency, development and customer satisfaction in today's market. Make one good product not 4 clones of the same one! Oh, and USE PREMIUM PARTS!!!! Regards, OW |
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Replying to: fintail (Nov 08, 2008 7:20 pm) Well, take a look at the chart. The whole business model is reflected in market share erosion over time. This should not be a surprise to anyone on the earth.  Regards, OW |
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 08, 2008 2:03 pm) |
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Replying to: joshuag (Nov 08, 2008 10:39 pm) Ford has been turning things around for a few years, although they are further behind than GM in incorporating globalization in their design and marketing processes. They have a 223-day supply of the MKZ, their newest Lincoln product (?), right now - I'm guessing it's a long road back for Lincoln, if it EVER makes it back. Ford is still struggling, it is just a little ahead of GM in terms of the amount of money it has left in the bank. If you have to pick one domestic automaker to preserve, which I think is probably the best idea by far if there HAS to be a bailout, then GM with its largest market share, it's most advanced work on plug-in hybrids, and it's best incorporation of global product for the North American market, would be the one to choose. |
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Replying to: joshuag (Nov 08, 2008 10:39 pm) Let's see, my family and I have purchased American cars for years. That makes me a customer, correct? Well, their current products are not desirable and have not been selling to support their business model. Any questions? In case you haven't noticed, the others do it better. Do you think I stay up at night praying they fail? They do just fine on their own! Regards, OW
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Replying to: joshuag (Nov 08, 2008 10:39 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Nov 09, 2008 7:34 am) In spite of their "progress" I think you do pray they fail. |
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