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Re: Volt to get 100+ mpg rating [sls002] by 62vetteefp
Sep 28, 2008 (12:29 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Sep 27, 2008 9:02 am)

Yes, the mpg for city and highway after the battery gets down to 30% (engine kicks in) would be good info. My guess is that 55 city / 50 highway would be about right based on the Prius numbers (48/45). Big jump in city due to more efficient batteries/regeneration. Smaller jump in highway due to heavier batteries.
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Well, 62vette... by iluvmysephia1
Sep 28, 2008 (12:55 pm)
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from this Mitsubishi and Kia fan I must say that the new Chevrolet Volt is good news, however it technically works on the inside with re-generation and which drive is propelling it. That's the GM Engineer's job, thankfully for us, right?
 
No, it's gonna be fun to see how people like their Volt's and like the Volt's reliability, performance, gas savings, etc. This thing is gonna cost somewhere around $40,000? Ouch, the thing is, Mitsubishi's new i-MIEV for 2009 in Japan and 2010 for America, will be an all-electric that will run somewhere around $30,000. Hopefully less some government rebates and such. So these new "green" toys are not going to come cheap, by any stretch.
 
I would say the Volt should be a hit with American people, though, people could use some rebate help with it as well.
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Re: Well, 62vette... [iluvmysephia1] by 62vetteefp
Sep 28, 2008 (4:39 pm)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Sep 28, 2008 12:55 pm)

I would say the Volt should be a hit with American people, though, people could use some rebate help with it as well.
 
Looks like the first 250,000 units will get a $7500 tax credit from Uncle Sam and in some states perhaps a state credit. That will mean the vehicle will sell for a bit under $30k. So with the gas savings this could be a bunch closer to a financial breakeven vehicle.(Assuming gas does not continue down, $3.40 around here now) Of course the price is gonna drop after the 2nd year with the battery improvements and cost efficiencies. By 2013 it sounds like EVERYONE is gonna be selling vehicles with the large Li-Ion batteries. But who really knows. Lithium may become scarce and cost prohibitive. We will have to wait and find out.
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Well... by iluvmysephia1
Sep 28, 2008 (10:24 pm)
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as car prices go a bit under $30,000 for a vehicle like the Volt is not that bad. Considering how much money a person can potentially save on gas.
 
As far as battery types go, you're right, improvements are on the way. It is in a state of flux and change, but it sounds like the Volt is a good and solid design. That's why I am curious to see how these cars hold up under day-to-day use. Performance and reliability is what I'm curious about with the Volt. Heck, I may give it a harder look as time goes by, it seems to have a good body design, too.
 
What is now my top choice, subcompacts and compacts like my 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS, may some day give way to cars like the Volt. I have undergone a change in thinking as to the future of automotive, it happened for me around the change of the new year into 2008. I grew bored and tired of continual talk about dependence on foreign oil, warring over oil, running out of oil, etc., and it became hideously clear that we need to look elsewhere for our propulsion methods for our new automobiles. Cars like the Volt are fitting the new world bill, I do believe.
 
I think I'll start researching the Volt a lot more, GM probably has a separate website for the Volt, I would think.
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Edmudns tries again by 62vetteefp
Oct 01, 2008 (4:27 am)
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Edmunds.com predicts new-car sales to drop 19.7 percent compared with
   September 2007. Chrysler LLC may suffer the worst drop in recent memory,
   down 36.5 percent from 2007 September figures, Edmunds says. Ford Motor
   Co. sales could be down 25.1 percent compared with September 2007, and
   General Motors could drop 23.9 percent.

 
they did not seem to guess on the others. I predict they will be hurt just as bad. Honda will come out the best.
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some local GM news for me by nippononly
Oct 01, 2008 (5:54 am)
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four more GM dealerships folded yesterday in the Bay Area. Interestingly, one of them is a multi-brand store, and will remain open selling Toyotas but will close the Chevy dealership.
 
The only GM dealer in the actual city of San Francisco, a dealer that has been around FOREVER, is closing its Pontiac Buick GMC franchise, but will keep Chevy, Cadillac, and Saab for now. The nearest new Buick to me keeps getting further and further away...
 
They all blame several years of slow sales that have now ceased entirely as a result of the credit crunch this year.
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Wow, Toyota down 32% with GM down 16% by 62vetteefp
Oct 01, 2008 (4:31 pm)
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September sales plunge 27%; GM down 16%, Toyota down 32%, Honda down 24%, Ford down 34%, Chrysler down 33%, Nissan down 37%
 
I guess GM car sales are holding their own in this down market.
 
Chevrolet Malibu retail sales up 192 percent;
Pontiac Vibe up 61 percent compared with last September
Buick Enclave, GMC Acadia and Saturn Outlook crossover total sales up 10 percent;
72,500 Chevrolet Silverado, Avalanche and GMC Sierra pickups sold; beats industry trend as segment-leading vehicles grab market share
GM's market share estimated at 27 percent, marks second consecutive month of market share gains
Total Q3 sales up 4 percent compared with Q2, with market share improving by more than 3 percentage points

 
GM trucks were down 20%. Much better than total industry of 27%.
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Re: Wow, Toyota down 32% with GM down 16% [62vetteefp] by circlew
Oct 01, 2008 (4:47 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Oct 01, 2008 4:31 pm)

GM's market share for the month is 29.4% but 22% YTD.
 
link title
 
It's only going to get worse considering tight credit.
 
Regards,
OW
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The Cruz introduced in Paris by 62vetteefp
Oct 02, 2008 (3:41 am)
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General Motors Corp. displayed the most important car in its global turnaround plan Wednesday night on the eve of the Paris motor show.
 
 The Chevrolet Cruze, a roomy and stylish compact sedan, will be built on at least four continents and become the face of GM's effort to transform Chevrolet from a parochial American brand into a global powerhouse like Toyota, Ford and Volkswagen.
 
"The Cruze is much more important to GM than the Volt," the celebrated extended-range electric car Chevrolet will launch in 2010, said Stephanie Brinley of consultant AutoPacific. While the revolutionary Volt has generated reams of positive publicity for GM, it will initially sell in small numbers and almost certainly lose money.
 
"It's a real step up in looks and content," said Rebecca Lindland of analyst Global Insight. "This is a small car they can get more money for."
 
In addition to stylish lines reminiscent of the hot-selling Chevrolet Malibu, the Cruze will offer more interior space and better fuel economy than any other compact car sold in America,
 
American Chevrolet dealers may eventually get a compact minivan like the Cruze-based Orlando concept car shown in Paris Wednesday. The Orlando could top 30 m.p.g. on the highway, Peper said.
 
"Chevrolet's vehicles are becoming exponentially better," said Joe Phillippi, principal of AutoTrends Consulting, Short Hills, N.J. "I'm very impressed by the Orlando. It's gotta be somewhere in the product plan."
 

 
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081002/BUSINESS01/810020411/10- 02/BUSINESS
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New Traverse by 62vetteefp
Oct 02, 2008 (3:45 am)
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Do not play poker with Anna Kretz. The soft-spoken engineer who oversaw development of General Motors' midsize crossovers will clean you out and leave you without cab fare to get home.
 
 Kretz just dealt her boss a fourth straight ace. The 2009 Chevrolet Traverse completes a lay-down hand and gives Chevrolet its best family hauler in decades.
 
Buoyed by an exceptionally clean and attractive design, appealing features, good fuel economy and a competitive price,
 
Prices for the 2009 Traverse start at $28,555 for a base LS front-drive model. The least-expensive all-wheel drive model is a $30,255 LS. The top-of-the line all-wheel drive LTZ costs $41,075 and includes leather upholstery, a navigation system and memory seats. All prices exclude destination charges.
 
The Traverse's key competitors include the Ford Flex, Honda Pilot, Hyundai Veracruz, Mazda CX-9 and Toyota Highlander.
 
The Traverse I tested falls in the middle of the price range for comparable models of those vehicles. It surpassed them for looks, comfort and practicality, making it an ace in the hole for stylish kid-carrying.
 
Like the other seven- and eight-seat crossover SUVs, the Traverse also aims to compete with minivans like the Dodge Grand Caravan, Honda Odyssey and Toyota Sienna by offering kid-friendly room, ease of entry and luggage space without the baggage that comes with minivan looks.
 
Style, value, practicality and comfort. That's another four aces, and this hand has been played. The Chevrolet Traverse wins.
 
Competing automakers can push their chips to the middle of the table and wait for the next deal.
 

 
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081002/COL14/810020412/1002/BU- SINESS

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