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#1 of 32000 GM: GM News, New Models & Market Share.
Oct 21, 2007 (9:44 pm)
In the last three months or so, GM saw sales rise, thanks to excellent new models. On the other hand, Toyota is facing quality problem, and recently sale decline. Is this a new a trend? GM is the only american auto company that is doing well for now. Ford is trying to get on its feet. Chrysler is just in deep trouble.
#2 of 32000 Went to a Buick dealer...
Oct 22, 2007 (6:04 am)
...to look at a 2005 Park Avenue that turned out to be a dud, (bad repaint). Anyway, I asked about the LaCrosse Super and they're going to be somewhere in the $31K range and be powered by a 5.3 V-8 similar to the Impala SS.
#3 of 32000 Re: Went to a Buick dealer... [lemko]
Oct 22, 2007 (10:46 am)
$31k? Jeez, that kind of money will get you a Genesis with a lot of extra space driven by the proper wheels.
#4 of 32000 Re: Went to a Buick dealer... [bumpy]
Oct 22, 2007 (9:35 pm)
That is however yet to be confirmed.
#5 of 32000 Re: Went to a Buick dealer... [rockylee]
Oct 22, 2007 (10:29 pm)
I remember reading a review about the Super and it was mostly negative. It was smooth and had good performance in straight line, but it was a lousy handler with an outdated chasis. And the fit and finish of the imporved interior was poor. LaCrosse belongs to the old GM era, not the new excellent products.
#6 of 32000 Re: Went to a Buick dealer... [torque_r]
Oct 23, 2007 (7:59 am)
I don't see what the LaCrosse Super has that isn't already available on the Pontiac or Impala "Super". All three are on an aging platform that should be dumped sooner than later. The G8 Pontiac is a much better choice for a performance sedan, or the new CTS. FWD makes for poor performance in handling.
#7 of 32000 Re: Went to a Buick dealer... [sls002]
Oct 23, 2007 (9:00 am)
Okay the LaCrosse Super, might not be the best effort but with cash on the hood it would make a great alternative. It sure beats buying a camcord for the same money.
I myself really like the Buick Lucerne Super. If I wasn't so obsessed with the new Saab 9-3 Black Turbo X it would rank up their a little higher.
My Top 5 favorite GM cars for 2008.
#1 Saab Turbo X
#2 Cadillac CTS
#4 Cadillac STS
#5 Lucerne Super
#8 of 32000 Lucerne Super
Oct 23, 2007 (9:47 am)
Here's my take on the Lucerne Super, which has a certain appeal, to be sure. Among other things, it evokes memories of the most exciting performance oriented Buicks of the past (the first pre-war Century, the '55 and '57 centuries, and the Grand Nationals). I think, though, that it'll be a much better value as a used car, just as the supercharged Regal GS is, than a new car. By the time the next generation Lucerne is introduced, the '08 Super will have depreciated to the point where it'll be a great value.
Want a great performance value today? Then consider a late model Regal GS. For new, buy an Accord; for used, buy a Regal. Hopefully, Buick will fix this paradigm soon, with more aspirational. "gotta have" cars. I hope so, because I'd like to see Buick, as well as the other domestic brands, not only survive, but thrive. I root for the home team, but, like other hypocrites, I vote with my wallet. The domestic brands are closing the gap with the imports, but for the most part, they're not there yet. There are exceptions, such as the Corvette (a clear example of best-in-class), and, arguably, the CTS. Others come close, but could use a little more tweaking. Examples of these would include the Chrysler 300, and Ford Fusion, the new Taurus, and, yes, the new Focus, in my opinion. I say "could" because, while they may not be stand out as best-in-class, they're very competitive in their respective classes. The jury is out on the '08 Malibu, but hopefully it'll put Chevy solidly back into the family sedan segment.
My 2 cents.
#9 of 32000 Re: Lucerne Super [hpmctorque]
Oct 23, 2007 (10:04 am)
Among other things, it evokes memories of the most exciting performance oriented Buicks of the past
How does it do that? The Lucerne Super has maybe 5 more horsepower than the regular V8 Lucerne.
#10 of 32000 Re: Lucerne Super (bumpy)
Oct 23, 2007 (10:14 am)
Sorry, my comments were intended for the LaCrosse Super, since that's the model with the powerful engine in a medium size body, in the spirit of the Centurys and GN.
The Lucerne Super is more of a successor to the Park Avenue T-Types of the '80s, or were they Electra T-Types (can't remember exactly now, but they were the large body, more sporty Buicks of that period).