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Re: Opel stays [imidazol97] by andre1969
Nov 03, 2009 (6:56 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 03, 2009 6:06 pm)

Is the symbol for OPEL with a horizontal lightening bolt really dorky looking? Or is it just my impression of it and others think it looks modern, cool, up-to-date?
 
I always thought it looked like some kind of logo that you'd see in a low-budget 1970's sci-fi movie. Maybe Roger Corman designed it?
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Re: Opel stays [steve_] by m4d_cow
Nov 04, 2009 (4:47 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 03, 2009 5:00 pm)

Hoo... what's this, GM actually making a smart choice for once!!!
 
It's only natural though. Without Opel GM is practically doomed.
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Here's an interesting evolution... by lemko
Nov 04, 2009 (5:53 am)
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...of Audi's logo:
 
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Re: Here's an interesting evolution... [lemko] by m4d_cow
Nov 04, 2009 (6:32 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 04, 2009 5:53 am)

Interesting. Can you see the irony? It all started as a union of 4 separate, distinct companies, and then slowly each began to lose it's identities until nothing is left but the rings that mark the union.
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Re: Here's an interesting evolution... [m4d_cow] by ingvar
Nov 04, 2009 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Nov 04, 2009 6:32 am)

But now this unionized company selling non-premium cars for premium money on US market (audi a3, audi a4 2.0T)
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Re: Here's an interesting evolution... [m4d_cow] by tlong
Nov 04, 2009 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Nov 04, 2009 6:32 am)

Can you see the irony? It all started as a union of 4 separate, distinct companies, and then slowly each began to lose it's identities until nothing is left but the rings that mark the union.
 
The irony is GM's. If Audi were GM they would have *retained* each of those 5 company names, putting out rebadges of the A3, A4, A5, A6, A8, S4, R8, Q5, Q7, TT, etc. under each name, for a total of over 40 models. They would have 5 sets of redundant dealerships who competed with each other. Then their reps would come on Edmunds and claim that the brand structure did not add any cost to their operation and that they brought in more buyers in different demographics that way.
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the Germans aren't happy by steve_ HOST
Nov 04, 2009 (8:50 am)
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"General Motors' (GM) decision to hang on to its European car unit Opel, including Vauxhall, was welcomed in the UK but met with anger in Germany.
 
German leaders and labour unions had favoured a sale, to Canadian car parts maker Magna, as the best way to save German jobs as it included a guarantee that no German factory would be closed."
 
German fury over GM Opel U-turn (BBC)
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Re: Here's an interesting evolution... [ingvar] by dieselone
Nov 04, 2009 (9:26 am)
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Replying to: ingvar (Nov 04, 2009 8:35 am)

But now this unionized company selling non-premium cars for premium money on US market (audi a3, audi a4 2.0T)
 
Okay, if you say so. It's been a while since I've sampled an A4 2.0T, but I had a coworker that owned an A3 and it was a very nice car, definitely premium in my book. I guess small = non-premium? Back when I owned a 2000 Jetta TDI the interior quality and fit-n-finish absolutely shamed my grandpa's 2000 Park Ave. I don't think you'll ever find a door seam/panel gap in a VW/Audi that you could put a finger in. I could nearly put my thumb into some of the gaps on that Park Ave.
 
My wife's 07 GP is nearly as bad, nothing lines up right and the gaps change as you walk around the car. Truely pathetic. Are things changing? I'm still not convinced.
 
Two months ago, Mark LaNeve, at the time G.M.’s vice president for United States sales, said quality issues at the assembly plant in Kansas City, Kan., were holding up delivery of the LaCrosse. In an e-mail message, Randal Fox, a Buick spokesman, said, “The issues are minor (mainly fit and finish), but we want to make sure the cars are right before they’re shipped.” Sounds like more of the same to me.
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Re: Does anybody think... [tlong] by steve_ HOST
Nov 04, 2009 (11:47 am)
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Replying to: tlong (Nov 01, 2009 5:11 pm)

I'm having trouble seeing Emotorcons too, and the occasional posted pic. I think it's a local problem; no complaints to our help desk and other hosts are seeing them fine. And I just did a bunch of updates with no affect. Time for some sleep engineering.
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Re: Does anybody think... [steve_] by tlong
Nov 04, 2009 (2:36 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 04, 2009 11:47 am)

I'm seeing the emotorcons on my desktop but not on my laptop. Perhaps my laptop is blocking the image host site, thinking it's something that shouldn't be downloaded.

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