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#19 of 23 Re: 07 at shop now [dchittib] by jeyhoe Apr 29, 2008 (8:58 pm)
Replying to: dchittib (Apr 29, 2008 7:14 pm) Geez, that really s*cks. I dont know what the he!! is going on with these things. I have 47K on my 2004 and its been great. Except that it recently developed a brake issue - after I paid the dealer to put new brakes on. Since then if I hit the pedal hard in a panic stop, the pedal resists in a really strange way and I can hear vacuum - air escaping. There is NO ABS actio caus I am familiar with what that feels like. THe cars stops but no way is it stopping like it should. then when I release the pedal, it sortof resists coming back to normal and the brakes also slowly release. I had it back to dealer once and they seemed to fix it, but it's back. Normail braking seems fine, only when I hit the pedal hard. Course this is nothing like what happened to you. Dont know what to say except geez, sorry. Good luck. Certainly this is a guess, but I wonder if the previous owner had this happen and decided to dump it. If he took it to dealer, there should be a record of them trying to fix it. In this case he certainly should have told you.
#20 of 23 Re: 07 sensor replaced, not under warranty!!!![mikefl1] by flatrockale Jun 30, 2008 (6:48 am)
Replying to: mikefl1 (Mar 28, 2008 10:09 am) Mike, 2006, 30,000 miles, bought new. Hope you get this, your reply was excellent and i had the exact same braking issue as "jhays" I live in a gorge filled college town and am a experienced driver, towing handler, motorcycle driver. Without that i would have surely killed someone when it happened to me on a steep hill in an elementary school zone.   After absolutely no help from the dealership ( "Ms. it was a stone under your pad maybe") i self diagnosed my car issue from this forum. Jhays perfectly wrote the symptoms and course of events.... verbatim!!!!!  I had one speed sensor replaced (where i heard the noise, front drivers side) almost $400.00 I kept the part for future recall?? I was to scared to even drive the car!!!!! But no matter how hard i tried, Ford wouldn't warranty it, i paid out of pocket. They stated "because the problem couldn't be reproduced, it wouldn't be warranted" I went all the way to the top. Do you have any further ideas on how i can be reimbursed since you seem to know about " not being able to reproduce the problem"  I am recently divorced and this car is out of my price range for payments and maintenece but i'm forced to keep up with it for now.   Any ideas....help!!! Replies to this message: mikefl1 (Jun 30, 2008 9:00 am)
#21 of 23 Re: 07 sensor replaced, not under warranty!!!![mikefl1] [flatrockale] by mikefl1 Jun 30, 2008 (9:00 am)
Replying to: flatrockale (Jun 30, 2008 6:48 am) Ford Lincoln Mercury just replaced my 2007 Navigator with a 2008 Nvigator under the Florida Lemon law. THe porblem is electronic and they finally stepped up to the plate. If anyone is having this problem get friendly with the Service Department people and they will guide you on what to do. It took me a year but I got a new car that has no problems as an even exchange, they called it a "exchange of collateral". Things started happening when I had the service department help me. The speed sensors seem to correct the problem but after 65 days in the shop who knows??? I had no intention of risking my kids life on a guess.
#22 of 23 Complete Brake Failure / Southern California by riverdave Sep 09, 2008 (8:26 pm)
I just bought an 06 Navigator about 3 weeks ago. 43K on the odometer The truck appears to be in perfect condition. I noticed a couple issues when I was driving home, and I was going to take it to the dealership when I got a chance.   I leave my house (San Diego) at around 9 in the morning on a nice bright sunny day, and begin heading down the hill. I noticed the traction control light flashing and though I'd put it on my list of things to talk to the dealer about when I take it in. That's when I came upon a red light (heading down hill around 45mph) Push the brakes and nothing.. nada, zip, zilch. Blazed through the red light at about 50 (accelerating down the hill). It's a miracle I didn't kill somebody. Everybody at that intersection must have thought I was nuts.   Did the pump the brakes deal, and finally got some action on the front left tire. Brake pedal went much further then it usually does, and then started pulsing, and I could hear the front left tire starting to chirp, and the truck slowly came to a stop.   I had the truck flat bedded to Witt Lincoln in Escondido CA.. I have talked to the service advisor a few times on the phone, but haven't been down there to talk to him yet.   His stance is basically they can't duplicate any problem so there is no problem. Said the traction control threw a couple codes, and they reset it and no problems.   I'll be printing out this thread and taking it with me down there. I can't believe that Ford/Lincoln wouldn't be more pro-active on this problem?   This is my 2nd Navigator by the way. Last one was a 2000, I put over 200,000 miles on it with no problems. Finally an A/C compressor let go while I was at the river, so I traded it on this one. I must admit though I'm kinda nervous about driving the car now though?
#23 of 23 Brake failure by steel8 Nov 10, 2008 (9:42 pm)
On 10/29 mileage on vehicle was 19,758. vehicle was being driven by my wife on a flat city street in Laguna Hills CA approximately 10 am approx 40 mph and the day was clear and warm. She applied the brake pedal to slow down and the brake pedal was hard and would not depress and the vehicle would not slow down and a grinding noise came from the front wheels and the front end was shaking the antiskid light came on (while she continued to press down on the brake pedal) and the the brakes did not engage until the vehicle traveled approx 100 feet. The vehicle slowed and she pulled into a parking lot at a slow speed and it happened again.Towed to closest dealer. That dealer ffound no problem, and no codes showed up. Took it to dealer that sold the vehicle to us. They can't replicate the problem, but are still researching.

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